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@pomegran That’s what I don’t like preordering and I can’t even do it for what I actually want (Mister pi). I am not bothered about Sony at all. If there was a SEGA or Nintendo one I might go for it.

@WaveBoy The N64 hardware needs a mod for anything better than svideo (On the USA version which is the one I had) or composite they didn’t have any version with RGB which made it look far worse.

Has anybody got a link to actually buy one ?

I would buy something like this that conveniently Dumped Evercade rom’s. I am quite happy to pay for the rom’s but am not happy with the emulsion of e.g the Neo Geo ones. (Probably get the AES+ with the white Metal Slug cart and then just play Rom’s. I suspect there will be a raspberry pi pico based device that works for most of the games shortly after release. (I am not enough of a fan anymore for £90 a cart I have played them too many times before the games I like which are generally not the fighting game. I am not against £90 for a brand new game that looks right up my alley). There are some weird encryption titles if I remember correctly like Metal Slug 5 but I am not a huge fan of it and have an ACA Neo Geo version anyway.

If there was an official joystick for ACA NEOGEO and AES mode I might not even bother with the AES+ (And those guys really show what ever problems Digital Eclipse have with the Switch they are either of their own making or with skill they can be worked around well).:Hamster certainly do a better job than Blaze (Evercade ) also.

@-wc- There is plenty of other stuff happening worldwide I disagree with and the modretro guy no matter what he says hasn’t actually done anything illegal (And if he wasn’t doing it somebody else would it’s what the powers that be want.) I don’t know why he is singled out so much compared to people with equally deplorable views. The AES+ I can see why people would boycott that on ethical grounds. (I try and buy only European made clothing but as much as I would prefer to avoid US or Chinese tech it is basically impossible.

But Ananlogue / Limited Run Games and stuff like mister pi I consider a total joke because if you just want the normal experience of pay your money get your item you just can’t do that.

It is all well and good all these great devices that the reviewers get sent for free to promote but unlike the ones that the site either refuses to report on or takes any chance it gets for go into the politics of the device. Actually getting hold of most of these fpga devices is almost impossible. (I want to pay for a product and then receive it reasonably quickly. I don’t want to pre pay for something that hasn’t even been made yet and wait months. I don’t agree with the politics of modretro or the actions of the Saudi Crown Prince. (Especially all that international harassment of one of his wives who tried to leave.) But at least if they make something they put up the money design it. Manufacture it and then you can buy it. The business practices of many of the other players in this area are a complete joke.

@PopetheRev28 If you have a dreamcast ode there is a pretty much arcade port of Metal Slug 6 (Homebrew port from Atomiswave I have found it to work better than any of the emulators I have tried the same game on currently and the Wii and PS2 ports are god awful).

But there is no way to run it from e.g a burnt disk because the Atomiswave used romcarts afaik.

@Sketcz What is your opinion on basins the asic on the mister core vs the original designs or don’t you have one. (The cost differences would be a rounding error compared to the costs they do have for making a as an asic)

(I do admit it is a quality product overall especially if you look at something like the mvsx)

@KingMike Firstly the question is do they still have the originals ? If they do the cost is vastly reduced Apparently the modern cost would be 10’s of thousands to make new ones but I think judging the Neo Geo market hand let’s face it this is a Saudi vanity project I think they could easily afford it.) I think it is wasteful making ASICS of the Mister core as well instead of updating the original hardware description language to a modern one and then adding the extra features. Again that would cost more but it would be the optimal way to do it. Making ASICS based on the Mister Cores just seems a waste of time (That will cost at least 100k$. A real English AES Metal Slug goes for 20000$ now. I totally understand making stuff like GBA remakes or homebrew using modern methods but these carts won’t last by comparison. For me to want to properly collect these they would have to be done to the same standards as old. They won’t last done like this. I would even take Evercade style multi carts if they were mask Rom. I still might pick one up to satisfy my inner child but I will probably get a flashcart and work out how to dump my Evercade roms onto it. (I do appreciate that stuff like this will actually be available to buy- like Modretro is because it has decent backing)

I think with the backing they have they should be able to afford mask roms for a £80:game. (Mod retro should be using them for e.g their Tetris releases as well.) Both parties can easily afford it and these are supported to be labours of love. (I don’t know why the AES+ didn’t start with the original vhdl or verilog either. (As it stands it might be an asic but it’s an asic of a mister core.

@PopetheRev28 I think an overclocked metal slug 2 has actually a better game design than X it’s a bit sad they never released a fixed version of 2. (3 I find the submarine bit really enjoyable but a death is so difficult after it happens I end up going the normal boring way. (The last level of 3 is far too long as well). I think the problem they had was people got decent at one so they had to be really tight on stuff like gas in the sequel’s to keep the Arcade operators happy. (You have to remember they were the main customers. AES users weren’t even really considered in the decisions.

Is it true that Metal Slug is a 30fps game ? (If so it is possibly the only one I like) obviously it ran on a 60hz screen but is it 30fps ?

I would like a Metroid zero mission style remake of Zelda 2 I am actually quite into games in that style.

I think stuff like this harkens back to the days when people didn’t take life so seriously. Booth babes were well paid and generally pretty happy with what they were doing. I don’t see how men making decisions for women on what they should and shouldn’t do progress in any way shape or form. Even being one of the women at the end of a formula one race was a good career path that didn’t need qualifications. The jobs available today for people with similar qualifications are awful and low paid. How is that better ?

I am disappointed the new neogeo carts are not using mask rim (Fot £90 I think they should be made to last).

@metaphysician As far as I know both Nintendo and MS are fine with it but Sony adds on a load of extra costs that are normally free for such titles. (I might be wrong and stand to be corrected.) But I think that is the reason it’s uncommon for indies.

I would like them to rerelease the exp I think it is system with the built in Capcom games built in. I have the aNEOGEO Super Pocket but tge emulator accuracy is much to be desired end. If the NEOGEO+ are bothering with ASICS II don’t see why they can’t fork out for mask Rom. There again I think iys likely if I do gyone I will fire out for either a flashgun cart or a MVS conveyor and use my own legitimately purchased roms.

The problem with these is the emulation quality is subpar whenn compared to e.g hamster.

I get that some people believe that once they have learned something they are owed a livelihood for life but this is a great boon for helping people do things that they otherwise wouldn’t have a cat in hells chance in undertaking. (Personally I have used AI to explain to me what I have needed to get input working on an esp p4 (On the 40 MHz co processor using physically wired in buttons/a nes controller and a NES controller. It’s written entirely in assembler and I understand it. The human written articles on the same topics are absolute garbage. I am only doing this stuff for my own personal interest but if you want to use AI to help you learn it’s a great resource. (On the other hand if you believe you have a god given right to be paid a lot for doing something that you learnt once 20 years ago then you will have a problem but automation has affected many other groups of people over the years but they have generally been poor so they didn’t get so many people complaining about it.) I think life should be a process of continual learning otherwise it gets boring anywy.

I am sort of interested in stuff like this but only when the software is fully open source (Especially when the hardware is expensive). Open hardware I am not bothered about quite happy for them to make money on the hardware. Just having an sdk doesn’t cut it for me. Happy for people who this is what they want though.

I think I will still be getting one of these but seen as they are making asics I don’t see why they couldn’t use the original hardware logic code as a starting point and then go from there. Yes it would need some changes to be put onto a modern process but if they are spending the money on an asic then I think they should go for the best way possible.

I will probably still get one of these but I don’t understand why when they didn’t make a revision of the original system with modern enhancements. Maybe it would have cost a bit more I guess more testing would be needed but they should have the original vhdl or verilog.

I am not as sold on the advantages of this approach as I was initially. (I think if they are doing an Asia they should start with the original vhdl or verllog and then adapt it for modern sensibilities.) Maybe it would cost a bit more but making ASICS has a pretty high fixed cost as it is. So actually making a new revision of the original design wouldn’t cost that much more.

@PowerPandaMods Interesting I have picked up a trimming smart pro s (I also have a myopic mini but the screen is too small. But I get the impression the dad dq vi is censored somehow.

Zophers Domain type content is exactly what I want from the internet. Surprised it’s still around. I miss the days before all everyone cared about was showing ad’s and click bait.

The translation I would love to be finished the most is the SFC DQ VI (Apparently the way it’s coded makes the last 10% a nightmare to do). I do own the DS port but even my new 3ds XL screen is too small for my aging eyes.

I am up for any recommendations on how to proceed. (Thought of playing it on my m2 iPad Air but I don’t know the best emulator or settings. I would want the second screen pretty small.

@Lanmanna There is some kind of extra payment for I think something to do with PSN that is only charged for cross play games. Only seems to be a problem for indies.

I find my £2 3ds to usbc charger adapter very convenient when travelling. I think as long as the actual usbc wall wart s of decent quality you are safe.

@slider1983 I don't think it is shady to be upfront about things. Nothing the modretro guy is doing is illegal in any way shape or form and if he wasn't doing it the US Military would get somebody else to do it.

The thing is he is using. the resources he has to produce really cool stuff for us. (Analog are a terribly run company as is Limited Run Games. Blaze has not even invested enough money for an accurate emulator for most of its systems.)

@Fanboy_Destroyer I know it is a great product but getting hold of one is like winning the lottery. These so called bad people have the resources to make situations like this a thing of the past.

In always talking about the downsides as it affects only a small portion of people who but completelyignores hoe many awful parts of other people’s jobs have been way less horrible.

This sort of thing is boring to read about so people in certain carees will have to either work harder or do so merging else. (If my career collapses over;ight I would be quite happy as a dog walker but there again my pension is due to be gigantic due to my antics in my 20’s.

I will probably get one. (I think these sort of things are the video game equivalent of those super expensive Lego sets for adults.)

It is a little disappointing that they don’t use the original vhdl or verilog as a starting point though.)

People love to hate modretro and The crown prince but at least they do things properly if they decide to make something.

The Mister Pi was a great idea but they are basically impossible to buy him getting involved with someone like modretro. (The rest of this scene are jokers who get loads of hype but force thou to either pay tears in advance (With the possibility of a crash and burn).

I have much more respect for Saudi Arabia than Dubai (At least Saudi d9esnt use obscure bits of uslamic law to enable money laundering on a massive scale and oppressed many of the masses of immigrants there. (It still has a system similar to indentured servitude that is totally evil. Yet people love it.

(I understand boe why the nes feels more responsive in terms of inputs than the snes)

I have demeanin around with input handling on the 40 mhz co processor (In Riscv assembler. One thin I have noticed is there are different delays built in to the logic which I never understood before dealing with Arcade style buttons ithe easiest did the home console Neo Geo just wire the pins directly ? I don’t know why anybody would complicate things when the end result is more latency.

Surely just getting a wire is safer.

Might be the cheapest way but the emulation is poor compared to elegant Arcade Archives.

I have only tried the Neo Geo Super Pocket so far but from the way people rave abthese things I was expecting much better emulation quality. (I have tried the Neo Geo Arcade 1-3 carts as well). Hamsters emulation on Switch is much better (And there are significant problems that have to be worked around on Switch).

So are they using proper 68000 and z80 CPU’s with the rest of the logic as their own asic or is the whole thing just an asic version of the mister fpga core ?

So does that mean that the video hardware has been done as a proper asic ? (No crappy fpga emulator here) ?

I find the Evercade emulator pretty disappointing. (I am pretty happy with hamster).

I think I would be very happy with one of these and Metal Slug / Magician Lord / Metal Slug X / Shock Troopers / Neo Turf Masters.

Luckily this time around I can afford it.

(People look down on the owners of such projects but this is ideal I think. I have no issues with modretro either. Even though their methods of making money are not exactly ideal the fact is they have the resources to do things properly.)

It is a breath of fresh air something like this exists. ASICS are better than fpafs. I think I will pick one up if a MVS to AES converterscv work. Looose MVS carts are still not too astronomical. (and will plat identically.

Is it just me or have the games workshop games been really dumbed down over the years. (I played the one with Warhammer Battle Magic and the different colleges but once looked at the edition before and that was an order of magnitude more complicated still.)

The carts should be remade if it is only an update digitally and Limited Run Games have shipped that. (Just to serve as a lesson.). There are a whole load of credits in the Seitch 3.

I used to love Shadow of the Horned Rat but I don’t use anything but GOG for games of this age.

And it’s already there…….

I like that it’s quite a good representation of Warhammer at the time I tried to play it. (My painting skills were horrendous so I never fully got into it.)

I fancied picking ACA Neo Geo Turf Masters up but it looks like I already own it on Switch. I think it might come up as another name on the home screen. I have an EU (UK) Switch. (Bit annoying Ninja Commando is still not back I could get it for Xbox but nearly all my ACA NEOGEO is on Switch and I would rather keep it that way because I have generally no issues with hamster Switch quality.)

I really do prefer to play Neo Geo games in AES mode with the 5 credit setup. I don’t mind playing with the MVS difficulty (Which in e.g Metal Slug just seems to affect bosses health I think I prefer the AI in fighting games at level 3 as well it sucks that my Super Pocket doesn’t have those options yet (Main evercades do.) I would really appreciate AES mode on ACA Neo Geo. (Emulaton is better than Evercade.)

With the next Steam deck apu being none custom the market for compatible devices should open up a bit maybe installing Steam OS directly might be allowed without it having to be certified hardware. (Might make no difference though because of Valves economies of scale.)

I was quite pleased to pick up a trim ui smart s pro for £50 recently. When I finally bother setting it up I think I will use it more than my Myoo mini or NEOGEO Evercade. Just because of the screen size.

I don’t see why it should be necessary to have loads of RAM in these anyway. (If the full Rom or disk image can fit in RAM that should be enough.)

The Mister Clones don’t seem easy to get hold of.

There is a Qualcomm based raspberry pi like board that is pretty cheap even the most expensive 12GB model so I don’t really get why it is such a problem unless it is subsidised. (Edit it’s gone up in cost by £25 for the cheapest one since I last looked £75 for 4GB £150 for 12GB) but even at those prices I can’t see why it is a big problem for the sort of prices they sell these premium devices for. Dragon Q6A is the board.)

@kitestar Mame is a bit unique in that if they can make something more accurate they will do even if it no longer can run at full speed. I think its credentials when it comes to preservation are actually genuine. (Loads of projects claim it is for preservation but I don’t think many really actually are MAME I honestly believe are trying for that.)

@pocketmoon I don’t have a problem at all. I think we have progress.