yes exactly! and, the genesis layout matches your index/middle/ring fingers, has a "nub" on the middle button for locating like a qwerty keyboard, and they specifically labelled them "triggers" which may or may not imply anything at all.
also, just my opinion (and i love sega controllers) but six buttons is kinda too many for one thumb, if all the buttons are used and all for different functions. ✌️
I have my two OG DC pads, one packed in, the other supplemental, and they have very different dpads. one is very flat, close to the face of the controller, and the other tall, stands off at least twice as far. no other detectable differences. I never hear anyone talk about this ✌️
btw I had a strong preference for one over the other, but i cant remember which now 😅 time to play some Dreamcast!
PS i also cant remember which controller was the pack-in 😆
1) "knowing better," in my esteem, is not really a factor when making the flat, unqualified statement "worst ______ ever." (of course the qualifications came later)
2) different hands are different, and some people like the Dreamcast controller. what makes your hands more "correct" than my hands? 🤔 it's an odd argument to make tbh.
3) it's one of the most important controllers ever made, as essentially the long established "pro con" template is a blend of super nintendo (diamond pattern buttons and bumpers) dualshock 1 (two clickable sticks and built in force feedback) and dreamcast (hall effect stick in primary position, analog triggers) features.
PS - I've not claimed that the 5200 is the 'worst controller ever made' but the list of controllers worse than the DC controller is not particularly short. ✌️
"but its like they hate the idea of people buying their old games."
this was never a problem for Namco before Bandai entered the picture, IMO. 😮💨
(i remember playing galaxian while ridge racer loaded on psx for example, and then when I saw galaxian/galaga for gameboy a bit later i jumped on it)
FWIW, there was a time that id have jumped on a soulblade/soulcal 1+2, Tekken Trilogy, or Ridge/Rev/Rage comp, but that time has passed and ive grown to enjoy the methods i consequently use to play these games over the years. Sorry guys it's a tiny flame you have to actually try to keep alive! ✌️
thanks for the clarification! and, I really meant it: the game is looking great!
i was addicted to Shattered Pixel Dungeon for months or years in the early 2010s, so this is right up my street and giving me some specific nostalgia. congratulations on what looks like some good, passionate work! I will look forward to playing this game in some form or other ✌️
the point for me would be that i could access my save data trapped on the carts in my collection, in order to continue my games on other hardware, and also not always choosing either/or when deciding where and how and on what hardware to start a game.
"The most recent genre title I've heard is for games like Bubble Bobble/Snow Bros. Etc. Arena Platformers."
I have always called those games "single screen platformers" since forever, and I utterly reject "arena platformers," not sure even why but that's what i'm doin. 👍✌️no sir i dont like it.
(single screen games are great, arent they? super sprint? pacman? donkey kong? galaga?these are some of the greatest games ever made. an NES smash bros demake as a single screen game in the style of mario bros might be pretty cool!)
obv im insanely jealous! 😅 ive been playing it on my steamdeck almost daily, i guess subconciously inspired by our interaction a couple months ago.personally it's the best NES racer I can think of and the list of better SNES racers is very short IMHO!
have you played it before or will this be the first time? EDIT - nvm 😅 have fun! if you enjoyed the first game you will be so pleased with the second! it even has 4p 😲
fwiw this is a much better writeup than the one turned in for Nlife, in which the writer doesnt seem to understand that this is a remake/master of Rtype III for SNES. ✌️
fwiw, the steamdeck can play all the retro games you can imagine, many in an above board way through the various shops including steam and gog, and has the roomiest and most ergonomically competent (at the expense of aesthetics and trendiness imo) control setup ive ever used, especially in a handheld device.
i dont know what your challenges are, full stop. personally, im a finish carpenter with tired and aching hands at the end of the day, and nothing feels more inviting to hold and use than my steamdeck. ✌️ again, fwiw.
ive wanted to return to Body Harvest since i rented it that one time. definitely one of the most unsettling games id played, with its oddly flat, foggy and quiet portrayal of Earth.
when I was like 8 or 10 (so early-mid 90s) I used to get my grandmother to buy me PC games from the discount bin at Sam's, and one of the games featured Aerosmith and came with a "guitar pick" controller, which you would shake or tap on the desk to "strum" in game or something.
i didnt buy it but i was intrigued. i mostly bought adventure and pinball games because I was pretty, pretty cool. 😎 thanks for listening to my amazing story ✌️
thanks for the write up on what appears to be my kind of book 🙂👍
small note: the sub headline "(...and a few that are perhaps best forgotten)" might come off a bit critical of the book in a way that i don't believe is intentional. my logic is that by their inclusion, the books authors intend to "remember" the controllers as it were, despite the flaws or what have you.
or in other words it's in conflict with this bit, "some of which were arguably little more than design dead-ends (who remembers the Batman joystick?) but remain interesting artefacts nonetheless."
im sure this'll be a good'n, but I still think id rather just (and do) have an N64, which I'm assuming are still commonly available for less money.
i do enjoy the 8bd n64 controller personally very much but it's so oddball that it's hard to find perfect applications, even with some common n64 games. i thought itd be a great DC and saturn 3d pad stand in but without analog triggers its hit and miss.
i play mostly on 4:3 (crts) and 16:10 (deck) lately and 16:9 looks really stupid and squashed to me, now. feels like i cant open my "eyes" wide enough to see vertically.
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Re: Review: DreamConn S - Is This $200 Wireless Controller The Ultimate Dreamcast Pad?
@Hexapus
yes exactly! and, the genesis layout matches your index/middle/ring fingers, has a "nub" on the middle button for locating like a qwerty keyboard, and they specifically labelled them "triggers" which may or may not imply anything at all.
also, just my opinion (and i love sega controllers) but six buttons is kinda too many for one thumb, if all the buttons are used and all for different functions. ✌️
Re: Review: DreamConn S - Is This $200 Wireless Controller The Ultimate Dreamcast Pad?
I have my two OG DC pads, one packed in, the other supplemental, and they have very different dpads. one is very flat, close to the face of the controller, and the other tall, stands off at least twice as far. no other detectable differences. I never hear anyone talk about this ✌️
btw I had a strong preference for one over the other, but i cant remember which now 😅 time to play some Dreamcast!
PS i also cant remember which controller was the pack-in 😆
Re: Review: DreamConn S - Is This $200 Wireless Controller The Ultimate Dreamcast Pad?
@PopetheRev28
i have a couple thoughts 👍
1) "knowing better," in my esteem, is not really a factor when making the flat, unqualified statement "worst ______ ever." (of course the qualifications came later)
2) different hands are different, and some people like the Dreamcast controller. what makes your hands more "correct" than my hands? 🤔 it's an odd argument to make tbh.
3) it's one of the most important controllers ever made, as essentially the long established "pro con" template is a blend of super nintendo (diamond pattern buttons and bumpers) dualshock 1 (two clickable sticks and built in force feedback) and dreamcast (hall effect stick in primary position, analog triggers) features.
PS - I've not claimed that the 5200 is the 'worst controller ever made' but the list of controllers worse than the DC controller is not particularly short. ✌️
Re: Review: DreamConn S - Is This $200 Wireless Controller The Ultimate Dreamcast Pad?
@Hexapus
this is interesting to me, as ive long wondered if sega intended its controllers (pre dreamcast im sayin) to be used with the fingers on the buttons 🤔
Re: Review: DreamConn S - Is This $200 Wireless Controller The Ultimate Dreamcast Pad?
@PopetheRev28
i'm guessing you are a huge 5200 fan.
Re: "Beyond Incredibly Dumb" - The Internet Doesn't Like People Sealing Up Graded 3DS Consoles
"Why don't they just make the whole game out of the plastic box?!"
Re: Tired Of Waiting For Bandai Namco, Someone Has Finally Given Us 'Ridge Racer HD' - But It's Only In Dreams
@metaphysician
great comment! I completely agree.
"but its like they hate the idea of people buying their old games."
this was never a problem for Namco before Bandai entered the picture, IMO. 😮💨
(i remember playing galaxian while ridge racer loaded on psx for example, and then when I saw galaxian/galaga for gameboy a bit later i jumped on it)
FWIW, there was a time that id have jumped on a soulblade/soulcal 1+2, Tekken Trilogy, or Ridge/Rev/Rage comp, but that time has passed and ive grown to enjoy the methods i consequently use to play these games over the years. Sorry guys it's a tiny flame you have to actually try to keep alive! ✌️
Re: Castlevania Legend Koji Igarashi's New Year's Resolution Is To Stay Out Of Hospital
you and me both, igs
Re: "Limited Run Games Has Been My Life For Ten Years" - Josh Fairhurst Announces He's Stepping Away
seems like this company could've done a lot more with what they had going for them. speaking as a non-customer.
Re: Roguecraft DX Is Coming To The Amiga, Mega65, And Game Boy Color
@Zendar
thanks for the clarification! and, I really meant it: the game is looking great!
i was addicted to Shattered Pixel Dungeon for months or years in the early 2010s, so this is right up my street and giving me some specific nostalgia. congratulations on what looks like some good, passionate work! I will look forward to playing this game in some form or other ✌️
Re: Roguecraft DX Is Coming To The Amiga, Mega65, And Game Boy Color
if any of those shots in the trailer are from the GBC version...
color me impressed. 😎
Re: Pre-Orders For The SN Operator, Your Next Essential SNES Accessory, Open Today
does anyone know if a device like this can take save files from emulators and load them onto original carts?
Re: Pre-Orders For The SN Operator, Your Next Essential SNES Accessory, Open Today
@Przemyslaw
the point for me would be that i could access my save data trapped on the carts in my collection, in order to continue my games on other hardware, and also not always choosing either/or when deciding where and how and on what hardware to start a game.
Re: "The World Needs More Games Like This" - Atari CEO's Best Game Of 2025 Proves He Has Impeccable Taste
I was gonna play this game, but it was "non-dopamine" so I did something else.
Re: Who Created The Term "Metroidvania"? Gaming Historian Critical Kate Tries To Find Out
@Guru_Larry
"The most recent genre title I've heard is for games like Bubble Bobble/Snow Bros. Etc. Arena Platformers."
I have always called those games "single screen platformers" since forever, and I utterly reject "arena platformers," not sure even why but that's what i'm doin. 👍✌️no sir i dont like it.
(single screen games are great, arent they? super sprint? pacman? donkey kong? galaga?these are some of the greatest games ever made. an NES smash bros demake as a single screen game in the style of mario bros might be pretty cool!)
Re: Road Rash Is Getting A Spiritual Successor Called 'Bash Moto'
@Blast16
"I wish for YouTube embeds instead of X."
second the notion.
"I’ll get over it"
aye.
(the best Road Rash is the PSX port of the 3DO version. reason being it's the one i had when i was a kid. 😂👍)
Re: MicroProse Is Partnering With Geoff Crammond To Bring Back His Formula One Grand Prix Series
i wish i could remember the name of the MS-DOS F1 sim that my great uncle gave me for Christmas when i was a kid. ❤️ (thanks Paul, RIP)
Re: After 25 Years, Google Has Finally Killed Dreamcast Web Browser Support
@jygsaw
every GD time lol
Re: After 25 Years, Google Has Finally Killed Dreamcast Web Browser Support
don't let the
discGD-ROM cover hit you.Re: "One Of A Kind" - The Largest Game Of Tetris Has Just Been Played With The Help Of Over 2000 Synchronized Drones
@Daggot
i am also not convinced.
it seems the source is the "Playing the largest game of Tetris in the sky?" bit of Redbull's tweet, not exactly definitive.
Re: "One Of A Kind" - The Largest Game Of Tetris Has Just Been Played With The Help Of Over 2000 Synchronized Drones
so... how big was it?
Re: This New NES Game Mixes Arkanoid With Castlevania To Create A Genre We Didn't Know We Needed
not just "yes," but "yes, please" 😊
Re: Gallery: Unboxing Retro-Bit's 'R.C. Pro-Am II' And 'Battletoads & Double Dragon' Re-Releases
@Bod2019
hey thanks for checking back in! 👍
obv im insanely jealous! 😅 ive been playing it on my steamdeck almost daily, i guess subconciously inspired by our interaction a couple months ago.personally it's the best NES racer I can think of and the list of better SNES racers is very short IMHO!
have you played it before or will this be the first time? EDIT - nvm 😅 have fun! if you enjoyed the first game you will be so pleased with the second! it even has 4p 😲
Re: Mariachi Legends Is A Super Stylish New Action Platformer That's Giving Us Major Castlevania Vibes
looks sick I'm in 👍
Re: Sega & Higround Are Collaborating On A Range Of New Sonic & Dreamcast-Inspired Keyboards
"Higround is also releasing a Basecamp 75+ keycap set ($69.95) in the Sonic CD design,"
70 bucks just for the damn caps?? 😂
Re: The SNES Classic 'R-Type III: The Third Lightning' Is Getting A Remake For Modern Consoles & PC Next Year
YES. easily the best r type game, for me.
fwiw this is a much better writeup than the one turned in for Nlife, in which the writer doesnt seem to understand that this is a remake/master of Rtype III for SNES. ✌️
Re: Abxylute's $70 Retro Gaming Handheld Runs Android And Linux
this looks awful, to me. i cant imagine why i would pick this one for $70
@saanaito
steam is coming to ARM btw 👍
Re: Modder Builds "World's First" Nintendo 3DS Dock
@h3s
fwiw, the steamdeck can play all the retro games you can imagine, many in an above board way through the various shops including steam and gog, and has the roomiest and most ergonomically competent (at the expense of aesthetics and trendiness imo) control setup ive ever used, especially in a handheld device.
i dont know what your challenges are, full stop. personally, im a finish carpenter with tired and aching hands at the end of the day, and nothing feels more inviting to hold and use than my steamdeck. ✌️ again, fwiw.
Re: Unofficial Dreamcast Port Of Star Fox 64 Now Available
"Do a Swiss Cake Roll!"
Re: Mortal Kombat, Tekken, & The Man in the High Castle Actor Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa Has Passed Away
he stole every scene, what a loss. 💔 I hope he lived a good life. 🥲
Re: Random: Now You Can Smell As "Good" As Snake With These Official Metal Gear Solid Delta Toiletries
"Delicious!"
🎶Soap... EATER~R🎶
Re: Monkey Island Creator Ron Gilbert Cancelled His Pixelated Zelda-Esque RPG Because Old-School Zelda "Isn't The Big, Hot Item"
"scrolling" is such a loaded word now that i passed over this one on steam assuming it was some kind of "meme game.'
(but now that i know what it is I'm gonna check out 👍)
Re: N64 Cult Classic Body Harvest Is Now Available On Polymega
strange pairing but great games!
ive wanted to return to Body Harvest since i rented it that one time. definitely one of the most unsettling games id played, with its oddly flat, foggy and quiet portrayal of Earth.
Re: Random: Did You Spot This NES-Related Blunder In Stranger Things Season 5?
@Quick_Man
as John Siracusa says: "Nobody cares about this but me, but I do care." 👍
Re: Random: Did You Spot This NES-Related Blunder In Stranger Things Season 5?
@sdelfin
i came to say this, too 😆
in all fairness I can't keep these titles straight, either, and to the untrained eye they are all basically the same game 😂 ✌️
Re: Balatro And Scrabble Just Had A Baby, Thanks To Two Of The Legends Behind GoldenEye And TimeSplitters
YES! Im actually angry that it isnt available RIGHT NOW! 😂😅
Re: Random: "It May Be The First Video Game About The Beatles" - Before Rock Band, There Was Beat the Beatles
MEMORY UNLOCKED
when I was like 8 or 10 (so early-mid 90s) I used to get my grandmother to buy me PC games from the discount bin at Sam's, and one of the games featured Aerosmith and came with a "guitar pick" controller, which you would shake or tap on the desk to "strum" in game or something.
i didnt buy it but i was intrigued. i mostly bought adventure and pinball games because I was pretty, pretty cool. 😎 thanks for listening to my amazing story ✌️
Re: Here's Super Mario 64 Running On PlayStation
" a lot of stuff is either not working properly or plain broken."
so, they nailed it.
Re: 'Trigger Happy' Is A Sumptious Visual Tour Of Gaming's Greatest Controllers
thanks for the write up on what appears to be my kind of book 🙂👍
small note: the sub headline "(...and a few that are perhaps best forgotten)" might come off a bit critical of the book in a way that i don't believe is intentional. my logic is that by their inclusion, the books authors intend to "remember" the controllers as it were, despite the flaws or what have you.
or in other words it's in conflict with this bit, "some of which were arguably little more than design dead-ends (who remembers the Batman joystick?) but remain interesting artefacts nonetheless."
my 2 cents, thanks again ✌️
Re: Review: Analogue 3D - The Ultimate Way To Play Nintendo 64?
@Damo
"I found that more than a few of my N64 carts refused to boot on the Analogue 3D, displaying the dreaded 'Unknown Cartridge' message."
did you then test these same carts on og hardware, for reference? that would be useful information. ✌️
Re: Review: Analogue 3D - The Ultimate Way To Play Nintendo 64?
"...the N64 always felt a bit bulky."
for real?
i remember, when i got my N64, it seemed pretty sleek to me compared to the NES, SNES, and PSX I'd had before.
thanks for the review! ive got the controller already so im all set 😂
Re: Amiga Format Returns To Newsagents For One Issue Only
the most nostalgic feelings i have for a computer i've never seen.
Re: The Wait Could Finally Be Over For Analogue's Much-Delayed FPGA N64
im sure this'll be a good'n, but I still think id rather just (and do) have an N64, which I'm assuming are still commonly available for less money.
i do enjoy the 8bd n64 controller personally very much but it's so oddball that it's hard to find perfect applications, even with some common n64 games. i thought itd be a great DC and saturn 3d pad stand in but without analog triggers its hit and miss.
Re: We Took Part In Vector War XV, The Vectrex Community's Version Of Bloodsport
... aren't you a little old for videogames?
Re: AYANEO's "Premium" Pocket VERT Has Diamond-Cut Shoulder Buttons And A CNC-Machined Case
looks like they are designing props for a near future sci fi set rather than actual things for human hands.
Re: Retroid Confirms Rapper Soulja Boy "Does Not Have Permission" To Rebrand And Sell Its Handhelds
he seems too young to be this washed up and pathetic.
Re: Retroid Confirms Rapper Soulja Boy "Does Not Have Permission" To Rebrand And Sell Its Handhelds
@MegaManFan
"YOUUUU" 😂
i couldnt remember what his song even was until i saw your post lol ✌️
Re: "Thank You All For Your Feedback" - New Retroid Pocket 6 Design Unveiled Following Online Backlash
@Scollurio
i play mostly on 4:3 (crts) and 16:10 (deck) lately and 16:9 looks really stupid and squashed to me, now. feels like i cant open my "eyes" wide enough to see vertically.
anyway i had the same thought with this 👍
Re: "Thank You All For Your Feedback" - New Retroid Pocket 6 Design Unveiled Following Online Backlash
@Jrs1
I saw MBV twice in the late 00s and my ears are still ringing 🤯🤘
Re: "There's Basically Nothing" - Final Fantasy VII Remake's Director Reveals "Almost No Documentation" Exists For The Original
@nuff64
one might assume that people who find classic games "unplayable" because of graphics also struggle to read a book or watch a B+W movie 🤔