yet, given the quote, it does seem that both "the company is pointing the finger at Nintendo," and "this issue will also impact the PS4, PS5, and Xbox versions, as the platform holders share similar requirements" are true. 👍
yeah, that was a little before my time. I'm glad to have missed it, but it seems like it's just one thing after another! my mom was worried about Mortal Kombat, Beavis and Butthead, and "raves" LOL. i think I got off easy. 😅
yes, we are backsliding horribly. so many people see the lack of "culture" like you see in this article clipping as "the death of comedy," because they never had a sense of humor in the first place.
OTOH, i mean, what if her face WAS copied from a man's face, and then i was attracted to the same face? 😱 the horror.
wow this is like an early birthday present 🥳 thank you!
(I agree about the graphic design in wipeout! looking back it was very mind expanding for young me, visually, aurally, and even spatially, being my first "real" 3d game. my imagination just went crazy for this game from the moment I first played it at Sears.)
wipeout was my very first game on my v1 PSX, when I was 10. I turn 40 next month 😱 feels like yesterday I was playing this game in my bedroom, of course with mind thoroughly blown.
"the 32-bit console struggled to accurately replicate the grandiose nature of the arcade version"
I'm sure this is true, but I don't remember anyone complaining at the time. what I do remember is people praising the twin stick controller and balking at its price 😆
we have different ways of thinking about it! ✌️ I don't think there are necessarily wrong answers, and I'm so happy that other people even want to think about this kind of stuff 😅
fwiw, I've thought since release it was obvious that numerous specific features unique to the Dreamcast were imitated in the Xbox's design, and too many to chalk up to coincidence or zeitgeist. just my opinion!
tbh the Sidewinder angle does introduce a wrinkle to the story I hadn't really considered. 👍 thanks for chatting with me about one of my favorite topics 😊
yeah, I actually thought the b+w buttons were the real identity of the Xbox controller, (along with the asymmetrical sticks,) but like everyone, they've done away with most anything remotely distinguishing (or dare I say whimsical!) in favor of oppressive, mundane, "modern" hegemony.
so, the XBOX controller can't be a ripoff of the Dreamcast controller, because the Sidewinder was a ripoff of the Saturn controller. interesting logic, I'm not sure I follow. 🤔
"And with the weird rotation of the buttons, the bottom row was more likely X, A - not A, B."
there is no "bottom row" of buttons for the Dreamcast controller as you've defined it, but I am not sure how this supports your argument anyway. ✌️
GRAVIS GAMEPAD, the only acceptable controller for commander keen and halloween harry. 🥳
FUN FACT: in the earliest days of ZSNES/9x, I'd play with a Gravis gamepad, and if necessary, press keys on the keyboard with my pinkies for L and R! 😅 so fancy!
"Much simpler answer: Microsoft is a western company - labeling from left (A) to right (B} seems natural."
I see what you are saying, but I disagree that it's a simpler answer than "they were copying Dreamcast" which to my mind they clearly were! why go looking for another reason beyond that? ✌️
2 VMU slots, analog triggers, button/stick placement. they looked at what Sega did and copied, because they aren't a videogame company, and they had never successfully made an original controller design that "caught on." they still haven't, as every Xbox controller has essentially been an iteration of the same design.
(btw Sony copied the SNES controller pretty much whole stock, but at least they had the self respect to relabel the buttons 😂✌️)
on top of that, SEGA did it first, and they are a Japanese company, so the explanation that Microsoft did the same because they are a western company actually doesn't make a ton of sense. 👍 imo.
(EDIT - to be fair, they also stole dual analog sticks and pressure sensitive buttons from PlayStation 😆)
I found your comment to be kind of hateful towards a person you don't know, for no reason. I don't really get where your animosity comes from, except that maybe you wish you could make stuff like this but for some reason you can't, or more likely just believe that you can't.👍
also I listened, there's some pretty good stuff in there! 😊✌️
not a huge deal anyway, good luck with all your endeavors!
I agree with you, except that I had and loved Sega rally 2 on dreamcast instead, blissfully unaware of the problems other people had with it and just loving my time with that game!
I should try to get a copy of 1 for my Saturn... 🤔
"how much of it is EGM itself, versus gaming in general, versus being a kid in the late '90s?"
suffice to say, if you were middle aged in the 90s, with no interest in videogames, then you probably wouldn't have gotten as much out of EGM as we did 😂✌️
off the top of my head, I particularly miss the sushi X files, and decapitato, and the GoldenEye hype train, and the metal gear solid hype train, and TOoT hype train, and their protracted comedic usage of Gameboy Camera long after the hype for that peripheral had died.
I also really enjoyed reading the bios for the "review crew" members, which they updated every single month and were often entertaining with recurring gags and themes, and sort of in-jokes.
if everyone doesn't know Jeremy Parish, or Retrobird on YouTube, I consider them the top shelf, along with gamesack. I'd be curious about some others I've missed though!
OMG I'm so pleased that Game Sack is getting some exposure on here! If some of y'all haven't checked it out... check it out!
Also EGM was my #1 magazine during the PSX era. SUCH. a great time, the whimsy and genuine excitement about the games were both palpable while reading. I miss being 12 years old, poring over every page, even the ads. ♥️ I absolutely can't wait for this! but I will!
see also Gameplayers, my favorite mag of the SNES era. ✌️ I could say everything I've said about EGM towards GP instead, still true.
"it would be extremely upseting for you, sure. But it would just be contraband of stolen materials for all of us."
speak for yourself! hearing about this happening to this person is upsetting for me. and if that says something about me, it's still better than the inverse. ✌️
if I bought something from Habitat for Humanity, and soon after the cops were raiding my house at dawn accusing me of possessing stolen goods, and letting people from a private company also enter my home, I wouldn't call it a "nothing burger."
one thing I always appreciated about first party memory cards is that they generally match the visual style of the console, so they don't look out of place while they live semi permanently in their home, sticking out of the mem card slot.
that being said I'm also afraid of 3rd party mem cards because I'm just a caveman, and your world frightens and confuses me.
are you left handed? I've never heard a left handed person complain about having to use a dpad on the left, and I've been thinking about this since the first time I noticed the Gravis PC gamepad had an accommodation for left handed people. ✌️
"Jeff Gerstmann, on the other hand, writing for Gamespot, was similarly enthusiastic about the portable Tekken game."
you can omit the phrase "on the other hand," imo. it's generally used for contrasting examples, so reading on to see this isn't the case is a bit jarring ✌️
EDIT - 👍
Cool looking game! handheld fighting games are pretty interesting. I personally had tohshinden and killer instinct on Gameboy and I found them to be better than and satisfyingly similar to the console variants, respectively. 👍
I also "don't play sports games" except I also do lol. I highly recommend NFL2K on dreamcast as an example of a sports game that showed me how good they could be.
there's a real atmosphere, and the personalities and animations of the players, attention to detail, and realistic color commentary just felt like the absolute future in 2000. the gameplay is real straightforward and snappy, too. "arcade like."
also taught me a lot about football, to the extent that I could actually follow along when I went to OSU games with my Grandpa ✌️
anyway we'd be interested to hear if you decide to try some sports games! 😊👍
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Re: 'Don't Die Mr. Robot!' Gets Demade For The Neo Geo Pocket Color
why the NGP's micro switch stick hasn't been copied widely, or at least a little, is a real mystery.
never heard of this game! If i ever get a flash cart for my NGPC I'll check it out, thanks 👍
Re: "Nintendo Has Made Serious Objections" - Last Ninja Collection Delayed On Consoles
@RootsGenoa
yet, given the quote, it does seem that both "the company is pointing the finger at Nintendo," and "this issue will also impact the PS4, PS5, and Xbox versions, as the platform holders share similar requirements" are true. 👍
Re: Random: No, Ridge Racer's Reiko Nagase Isn't Based On The Man Who Created Her
@Martin_H
yeah, that was a little before my time. I'm glad to have missed it, but it seems like it's just one thing after another! my mom was worried about Mortal Kombat, Beavis and Butthead, and "raves" LOL. i think I got off easy. 😅
Re: Random: No, Ridge Racer's Reiko Nagase Isn't Based On The Man Who Created Her
@PKDuckman
yes, we are backsliding horribly. so many people see the lack of "culture" like you see in this article clipping as "the death of comedy," because they never had a sense of humor in the first place.
OTOH, i mean, what if her face WAS copied from a man's face, and then i was attracted to the same face? 😱 the horror.
Re: Fancy Making Apps For 8BitMods' Upcoming Dreamcast VMU Pro? Here's Your Chance
I'm curious, is this SEGA endorsed?
if not, how is "VMU" not a SEGA trademark? 🤔
bonus question: does anyone remember what VMUs were called when first announced? I distinctly remember them having another name. I think. 😅
Re: 8BitDo Is Releasing Its Pro 3 In 'Spice Orange' To Match Your Beloved GameCube
Make a real GameCube type controller, you cowards!
Re: Anniversary: Ready To Feel Really Old? WipEout Turns 30 Today
@N00BiSH
wow this is like an early birthday present 🥳 thank you!
(I agree about the graphic design in wipeout! looking back it was very mind expanding for young me, visually, aurally, and even spatially, being my first "real" 3d game. my imagination just went crazy for this game from the moment I first played it at Sears.)
Re: Anniversary: Ready To Feel Really Old? WipEout Turns 30 Today
@Exerion76
wipeout was my very first game on my v1 PSX, when I was 10. I turn 40 next month 😱 feels like yesterday I was playing this game in my bedroom, of course with mind thoroughly blown.
cheers!
Re: "I'm Literally Standing On The Shoulders Of Giants Here" - Saturn Version Of Wizardry VI Is Finally Playable In English
"I’m literally standing on the shoulders of giants here…"
🙄
Re: Anniversary: Ready To Feel Really Old? WipEout Turns 30 Today
"Ready To Feel Really Old?"
no
"WipEout Turns 30 Today"
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
Re: PS3 Virtual On: Cyber Troopers Gets An English Fan Translation
"the 32-bit console struggled to accurately replicate the grandiose nature of the arcade version"
I'm sure this is true, but I don't remember anyone complaining at the time. what I do remember is people praising the twin stick controller and balking at its price 😆
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@SirAileron
"Microsoft got the rights to the Dreamcast's designs, which led to the creation of the Xbox,"
this is good to hear as it supports my existing world view! 😅 AHHHHHHHH feels so good doesn't it? 😂✌️ cheers.
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@Flitzpiepe
we have different ways of thinking about it! ✌️ I don't think there are necessarily wrong answers, and I'm so happy that other people even want to think about this kind of stuff 😅
fwiw, I've thought since release it was obvious that numerous specific features unique to the Dreamcast were imitated in the Xbox's design, and too many to chalk up to coincidence or zeitgeist. just my opinion!
tbh the Sidewinder angle does introduce a wrinkle to the story I hadn't really considered. 👍 thanks for chatting with me about one of my favorite topics 😊
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@KingMike
yeah, I actually thought the b+w buttons were the real identity of the Xbox controller, (along with the asymmetrical sticks,) but like everyone, they've done away with most anything remotely distinguishing (or dare I say whimsical!) in favor of oppressive, mundane, "modern" hegemony.
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@Flitzpiepe
so, the XBOX controller can't be a ripoff of the Dreamcast controller, because the Sidewinder was a ripoff of the Saturn controller. interesting logic, I'm not sure I follow. 🤔
"And with the weird rotation of the buttons, the bottom row was more likely X, A - not A, B."
there is no "bottom row" of buttons for the Dreamcast controller as you've defined it, but I am not sure how this supports your argument anyway. ✌️
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@BrianJL
GRAVIS GAMEPAD, the only acceptable controller for commander keen and halloween harry. 🥳
FUNFACT: in the earliest days of ZSNES/9x, I'd play with a Gravis gamepad, and if necessary, press keys on the keyboard with my pinkies for L and R! 😅 so fancy!Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@Jawessome
also reverting is not the right word, because it wasn't "ABXY" before it was "ABCXYZ."
"converting" would be accurate. or "adapting," or "evolving," or simply "changing" would suffice.
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@Flitzpiepe
"Your explanation is that Microsoft copied from the one company that failed horribly"
yes, "the one company that failed horribly." 1000%
"Then, why did Microsoft used another color coding for the buttons?"
wow you just destroyed my entire argument.
Re: Electronic Gaming Monthly Is Getting Its Own YouTube Documentary, Thanks To Game Sack And My Life In Gaming
"That's a bit of a low bar you've set there."
yet I did openly call for recommendations... 😮💨
from your comment, it seems you enjoy... nothing?
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
@Flitzpiepe
"Much simpler answer: Microsoft is a western company - labeling from left (A) to right (B} seems natural."
I see what you are saying, but I disagree that it's a simpler answer than "they were copying Dreamcast" which to my mind they clearly were! why go looking for another reason beyond that? ✌️
2 VMU slots, analog triggers, button/stick placement. they looked at what Sega did and copied, because they aren't a videogame company, and they had never successfully made an original controller design that "caught on." they still haven't, as every Xbox controller has essentially been an iteration of the same design.
(btw Sony copied the SNES controller pretty much whole stock, but at least they had the self respect to relabel the buttons 😂✌️)
on top of that, SEGA did it first, and they are a Japanese company, so the explanation that Microsoft did the same because they are a western company actually doesn't make a ton of sense. 👍 imo.
(EDIT - to be fair, they also stole dual analog sticks and pressure sensitive buttons from PlayStation 😆)
Re: Here's Why Controllers Have 'A, B, X & Y' Buttons, And Not 'A, B, C & D'
Xbox controller was copying the Dreamcast controller note for note, that's why.
The Dreamcast was simply following the established SEGA pattern, but obviously dropping C and Z to make a 4 button version. ✌️
it's a bit of a "SEGA does what Nintendon't, Xbox does what they've seen others do."
Re: Revisit This Amazing Fan-Made Ridge Racer Album And We Might Just Manifest A New Game
@NoirConceit
"Dude what? Please explain."
sure.
I found your comment to be kind of hateful towards a person you don't know, for no reason. I don't really get where your animosity comes from, except that maybe you wish you could make stuff like this but for some reason you can't, or more likely just believe that you can't.👍
also I listened, there's some pretty good stuff in there! 😊✌️
not a huge deal anyway, good luck with all your endeavors!
Re: Revisit This Amazing Fan-Made Ridge Racer Album And We Might Just Manifest A New Game
@Ristar24
I agree with you, except that I had and loved Sega rally 2 on dreamcast instead, blissfully unaware of the problems other people had with it and just loving my time with that game!
I should try to get a copy of 1 for my Saturn... 🤔
Re: Electronic Gaming Monthly Is Getting Its Own YouTube Documentary, Thanks To Game Sack And My Life In Gaming
@smoreon
"how much of it is EGM itself, versus gaming in general, versus being a kid in the late '90s?"
suffice to say, if you were middle aged in the 90s, with no interest in videogames, then you probably wouldn't have gotten as much out of EGM as we did 😂✌️
off the top of my head, I particularly miss the sushi X files, and decapitato, and the GoldenEye hype train, and the metal gear solid hype train, and TOoT hype train, and their protracted comedic usage of Gameboy Camera long after the hype for that peripheral had died.
I also really enjoyed reading the bios for the "review crew" members, which they updated every single month and were often entertaining with recurring gags and themes, and sort of in-jokes.
Re: Electronic Gaming Monthly Is Getting Its Own YouTube Documentary, Thanks To Game Sack And My Life In Gaming
if everyone doesn't know Jeremy Parish, or Retrobird on YouTube, I consider them the top shelf, along with gamesack. I'd be curious about some others I've missed though!
Re: Electronic Gaming Monthly Is Getting Its Own YouTube Documentary, Thanks To Game Sack And My Life In Gaming
OMG I'm so pleased that Game Sack is getting some exposure on here! If some of y'all haven't checked it out... check it out!
Also EGM was my #1 magazine during the PSX era. SUCH. a great time, the whimsy and genuine excitement about the games were both palpable while reading. I miss being 12 years old, poring over every page, even the ads. ♥️ I absolutely can't wait for this! but I will!
see also Gameplayers, my favorite mag of the SNES era. ✌️ I could say everything I've said about EGM towards GP instead, still true.
Re: Revisit This Amazing Fan-Made Ridge Racer Album And We Might Just Manifest A New Game
@NoirConceit
"this trying to ride the game's coattails is the definition of fan trash."
dude...
Re: Game Changer: Donkey Kong II Game & Watch - My First Ever Taste Of Video Games
first game, duck hunt
second game, super Mario bros.
Re: Game Changer: Donkey Kong II Game & Watch - My First Ever Taste Of Video Games
@KingMike
somehow I never even considered how stupid that is, but yeah I think you are right 😅👍
Re: The Original Game Boy Color 'Rayman' Is Getting A Physical Re-Release
it'd be far more ethical to just steal it.
Re: Game Changer: Donkey Kong II Game & Watch - My First Ever Taste Of Video Games
I always wished Nintendo wouldve made a game and watch that just played all the (single screen) game and watch games, instead of Mario or Zelda.
UPDATE: I found a SMB g+w mint/complete at a second hand store (seriously) and I LOVE it!! 😍🤩
now I gotta get the Zelda one 😂
Re: Review: KONKR Pocket Fit - Like A Portable PS2, But Even Better
@hste
no doubt, I'll be here 😅✌️
Re: Review: KONKR Pocket Fit - Like A Portable PS2, But Even Better
I'll wait for the next one.
Re: AYANEO Reveals Its Pocket Air Mini "Entry-Level" Retro Handheld Will Cost The Same As Some AAA Games
I see! that's 4x the pixels if I math legit.
I'm not sure but I think my 353vs is 480. now that I've used it a while, I can see where more res would benefit me, even with GBA games for example. 👍
(How do they even pretend to regulate product advertising claims when the language is this bad?)
Re: Indie Metroidvania 'Eternal Soul' Absolutely Nails That Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night Vibe
all "metroidvanias" are theoretically "inspired by" SOTN. this one is just copying it directly.
Re: AYANEO Reveals Its Pocket Air Mini "Entry-Level" Retro Handheld Will Cost The Same Than Some AAA Games
"World’s first handheld with a brand-new 4:3 retro display"
what?
Re: Two Ys Soundtracks, Including Music From Yuzo Koshiro, Are Now Available On Audio Cassette
chrome tape, or just regular old? makes a big difference, especially I'm assuming to those that would actually buy an audio cassette in 2025.
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@Carck
I get what you are saying! I'm taking this one at face value, perhaps naively. 👍
As far as "who" from SEGA, someone they've hired lol. it's not hard to imagine. I'm just commenting on the reporting. ✌️
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@RupeeClock
not only that but it says SEGA themselves raided this person's house, along with. what the actual f*ck?
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@Carck
"it would be extremely upseting for you, sure. But it would just be contraband of stolen materials for all of us."
speak for yourself! hearing about this happening to this person is upsetting for me. and if that says something about me, it's still better than the inverse. ✌️
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
if I bought something from Habitat for Humanity, and soon after the cops were raiding my house at dawn accusing me of possessing stolen goods, and letting people from a private company also enter my home, I wouldn't call it a "nothing burger."
Re: Bitfunx GCMCE "Breaks The Limits" Of Your GameCube's Save Data Storage
one thing I always appreciated about first party memory cards is that they generally match the visual style of the console, so they don't look out of place while they live semi permanently in their home, sticking out of the mem card slot.
that being said I'm also afraid of 3rd party mem cards because I'm just a caveman, and your world frightens and confuses me.
Re: Sunsoft Is Reviving One Of Its Classic Famicom Titles In The Form Of An Overcooked Clone
"Sunsoft is Back!"
Re: These New SNES ROM Hacks Aim To Make The Super Star Wars Trilogy A Whole Lot Fairer
fewer Jawas*
(joke ruining additional text for clearance.)
Re: The Making Of: Tekken Advance, Namco's Unexpected GBA Conversion Of The Classic Fighting Game Series
@ecco6t9
"Another great example of a game tailored to the hardware."
what a concept!
oh, how I miss the days of console at home, handheld on the go/turlet. it's how we ended up with roughly half the 2D Zelda games, after all.
Re: Switch Isn't Getting A Virtual Boy Controller, So This Modder Has Created The Next Best Thing
@Serpenterror
are you left handed? I've never heard a left handed person complain about having to use a dpad on the left, and I've been thinking about this since the first time I noticed the Gravis PC gamepad had an accommodation for left handed people. ✌️
Re: Switch Isn't Getting A Virtual Boy Controller, So This Modder Has Created The Next Best Thing
I've always been a fan of this controller. different was "cool" in the 90s and I like different 😊👍
Re: The Making Of: Tekken Advance, Namco's Unexpected GBA Conversion Of The Classic Fighting Game Series
"Jeff Gerstmann, on the other hand, writing for Gamespot, was similarly enthusiastic about the portable Tekken game."
you can omit the phrase "on the other hand," imo. it's generally used for contrasting examples, so reading on to see this isn't the case is a bit jarring ✌️
EDIT - 👍
Cool looking game! handheld fighting games are pretty interesting. I personally had tohshinden and killer instinct on Gameboy and I found them to be better than and satisfyingly similar to the console variants, respectively. 👍
Re: The Best-Selling Sega Saturn Game In North America Might Surprise You (But Then Again, It Might Not)
@farrgazer
I also "don't play sports games" except I also do lol. I highly recommend NFL2K on dreamcast as an example of a sports game that showed me how good they could be.
there's a real atmosphere, and the personalities and animations of the players, attention to detail, and realistic color commentary just felt like the absolute future in 2000. the gameplay is real straightforward and snappy, too. "arcade like."
also taught me a lot about football, to the extent that I could actually follow along when I went to OSU games with my Grandpa ✌️
anyway we'd be interested to hear if you decide to try some sports games! 😊👍
Re: The Best-Selling Sega Saturn Game In North America Might Surprise You (But Then Again, It Might Not)
@mariteaux
I purchase and play old sports games when I randomly see them at junk shops etc. I like em 😊👍
also "other" sports like Olympics and fishing can be interesting. and usually cheap.
my most wanted sports games right now are Nagano 98 on 64, NFL2K on dreamcast. but I'm willing to wait til they show up at Goodwill 😂✌️