A well written and well researched article. Glad I could help a bit with your research John! I think this article needs to be reprinted in one of your books. The more people from across the world who read this article the better. When VGHF is making claims that Asterix was never released on the NES just because it didn't get a North American release there's a problem of ignorance. We shouldn't be in this situation. My concern is I think some gamers wish to remain ignorant.
"how many British gamers, for example, are aware of video game history in France, Spain, Germany, South Africa, Hong Kong or Brazil?"
I know about French, German and Brazilian gaming history but really nothing about Spanish, South Africa or Hong Kong gaming.
@gingerbeardman "every game article is named for the USA version, rather than the original or most popular version of the game (which is what the say it is supposed to be)"
Yep! It should say Sega Mega Drive, not Genesis which is just the North American name.
I think it would be so cool if the new film featured characters we haven't seen adapted from the video game series for the 1994 movie and if older characters are used get the 1994 movie actors to portray them.
@Damo I bought some years ago an overlocked Mega Drive. It really ruined my gaming for some of the games I had. Some Mega CD stuff was unplayable or self-edited while a few Mega Drive games couldn't run correctly. Took me some years however to figure out what was going on.
If it's as biased in its sources as his Amico doc I'm not interested in watching. π
@bring_on_branstons His Amico doc naively thought it would bring both sides together when by its structure ended up just providing more ammo for the trolls and detractors. How's that for a legit criticism of Slope's work?
I honestly didn't feel the DKC games needed to be so hard. The game had enough levels to be quite lengthy. If Crash is like DKC in that regard it's not a tutorial the player needs but an easier time making it through the levels.
@Sketcz No problem. It really shows the American centric viewpoint of video games. Not sure if it's him or someone else in the article also points to the lack of access to the archive although to be fair the same criticism could be levelled at the VGHF as well. Yet now both VGHF and Embracer are trying to make their archives accessible, it's just a slow process.
@Sketcz There does seem to be a lot of hate towards European gaming because it's computer based. Arguments like "you have only one button" or "platform games make no sense", it's just a different way of playing games like Japan and America but certainly YouTubers like Game Sack don't help.
I also have trouble supporting the Video Game History Foundation due to their American centric bias which actually lead them to criticising Embracer wanting keep a video game archive as well because according to them it doesn't make sense as American created video games they should have the only archive. It's just not helpful. π€¦ββοΈ
@MegaManFan I never thought about that. That is a great point. I worry more for people who aren't interested in learning and recently over on a Discord I have come across such people. It's very frustrating.
@PinballBuzzbro I suppose their argument to this is always "well if those games were good why aren't they still making those games series today". It doesn't take into account rising costs and developers across Europe going out of business as a result.
@-wc- The problem is it's revisionism and at worst it's not educating future generations because if the US got their way in 20 years time you wouldn't know what a ZX Spectrum was. It has far more serious repercussions than regional ignorance.
@MontyMole Remember the NES only took off around Christmas 1990 because of the great pack in of TMNT with an NES. That was to the NES what the Batman Pack did for the Commodore Amiga.
@Sketcz If anything I think you'd be more than qualified to cover European gaming. A combination of your book experience and that you're willing to learn about that region of gaming. My biggest annoyance is European gaming not being seen as valuable as gaming released in America. Japan is also guilty of this ignorance. People outside of Europe should be celebrating and valuing games more from Europe. My boi Zool needs more love. π
@zazou703 I was generalising since it's mostly Americans but I fear that todays generation globally will remain ignorant of European gaming history. As far as America is concerned their history is what happened to everyone. πͺ
@Magic_Salmon_Pro One of the advantages of growing up in Europe is the market allows you to experience gaming from the three major regions rather than two.
@MegaManFan It's weird because I didn't even know there was a crash until American YouTubers talked about it. Shows how the UK was very unaffected.
It's the same amongst most American journalists and YouTubers. They think America is the centre of the world. What's more damaging and worrying is they refuse to want to learn about European gaming history.
@kkalata Well that's good to know. I look forward to picking up more books from you guys like Sega Console Classics Volume 2 eventually. Always entertaining to read. π
@RZ-Atom I do need to watch it but I feel Serious Sam doesn't get enough praise. It should have been included to show an FPS that was still doing the "boomer shooter" in the time of Half-Life.
Haven't had a chance to watch it yet but does FPS: First Person Shooter even acknowledge Serious Sam? In retrospect it was a fairly important game for the time.
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@caseyyy They've butchered a lot of releases it seems.
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@PZT Hey if he's a character from the game series go for it! π
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Makes sense for them. π
Re: Looking Beyond America - How Game Historyο»Ώ Is Connected On A Global Scale
A well written and well researched article. Glad I could help a bit with your research John! I think this article needs to be reprinted in one of your books. The more people from across the world who read this article the better. When VGHF is making claims that Asterix was never released on the NES just because it didn't get a North American release there's a problem of ignorance. We shouldn't be in this situation. My concern is I think some gamers wish to remain ignorant.
"how many British gamers, for example, are aware of video game history in France, Spain, Germany, South Africa, Hong Kong or Brazil?"
I know about French, German and Brazilian gaming history but really nothing about Spanish, South Africa or Hong Kong gaming.
@gingerbeardman "every game article is named for the USA version, rather than the original or most popular version of the game (which is what the say it is supposed to be)"
Yep! It should say Sega Mega Drive, not Genesis which is just the North American name.
Re: Random: What Happens When You Remove Charles Barkley From His Own Video Game?
Piko proving again how illegitimate their releases are. People want to play as Charles Barkley, not silly Joe Hoops! π€¦ββοΈ
Re: Ruff βnβ Tumble x Worms Is The Dream Mash-Up For Amiga Fans, And It Might Just Happen
If Atari don't own it not sure who does?
@caseyyy ...unfortunately. π
Re: Legendary's Street Fighter Film Could Be In Trouble (Again)
I think it would be so cool if the new film featured characters we haven't seen adapted from the video game series for the 1994 movie and if older characters are used get the 1994 movie actors to portray them.
Re: New Genesis / Mega Drive Mod Upgrades Sega's Console For A "New Era"
@Damo I bought some years ago an overlocked Mega Drive. It really ruined my gaming for some of the games I had. Some Mega CD stuff was unplayable or self-edited while a few Mega Drive games couldn't run correctly. Took me some years however to figure out what was going on.
Re: "You Can't Buy These Games" - VGHF Highlights The Many NES Titles We Never Got To Play
Hang on a second...Asterix was released! WTF VGHF!
@Nischenliebhaber Thank you! I thought I was going crazy. π
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That's quite funny! π
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@MARl0 I get where you're coming from. Graphics still look nice though.
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@Linker2A03 Press A, B, C and Start?
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@NatiaAdamo No I get that but I thought they had been already doing that.
Re: Video: The SuperSega Scandal Is Even Crazier Than You Imagined, And Here's The Proof
If it's as biased in its sources as his Amico doc I'm not interested in watching. π
@bring_on_branstons His Amico doc naively thought it would bring both sides together when by its structure ended up just providing more ammo for the trolls and detractors. How's that for a legit criticism of Slope's work?
@Maulbert Erm...Slope got taken for a ride?
@rob7979 Is that some kind of joke? π
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Used Donkey Kong Country To Explain Why Crash Bandicoot Was Too Hard
I honestly didn't feel the DKC games needed to be so hard. The game had enough levels to be quite lengthy. If Crash is like DKC in that regard it's not a tutorial the player needs but an easier time making it through the levels.
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Very impressive although considering the tech I think it could be pushed a little more.
Re: One Of The Worst Games Of All Time Is Coming To Steam
It would be a missed opportunity to not try to improve the game somewhat while keeping its flaws intact. I get the impression they won't though.
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@Sketcz No problem. It really shows the American centric viewpoint of video games. Not sure if it's him or someone else in the article also points to the lack of access to the archive although to be fair the same criticism could be levelled at the VGHF as well. Yet now both VGHF and Embracer are trying to make their archives accessible, it's just a slow process.
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@Sketcz I take it back, it wasn't them, apologies. It was Sean Kelly from the National Videogame Museum:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-is-a-game-publisher-trying-to-buy-every-video-game-ever-made/
Still it's pretty irresponsible for him to say this and shows the problems you're pointing to.
Re: SEGAGAGA Director Says Developers Have Approached Him In The Past To Help Make A Sequel
@Lorfarius I meant an official translation re-release for modern platforms.
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@Sketcz There does seem to be a lot of hate towards European gaming because it's computer based. Arguments like "you have only one button" or "platform games make no sense", it's just a different way of playing games like Japan and America but certainly YouTubers like Game Sack don't help.
I also have trouble supporting the Video Game History Foundation due to their American centric bias which actually lead them to criticising Embracer wanting keep a video game archive as well because according to them it doesn't make sense as American created video games they should have the only archive. It's just not helpful. π€¦ββοΈ
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@OldManLav What does that have to do with the quality of the games?
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@MegaManFan I never thought about that. That is a great point. I worry more for people who aren't interested in learning and recently over on a Discord I have come across such people. It's very frustrating.
@PinballBuzzbro I suppose their argument to this is always "well if those games were good why aren't they still making those games series today". It doesn't take into account rising costs and developers across Europe going out of business as a result.
@-wc- The problem is it's revisionism and at worst it's not educating future generations because if the US got their way in 20 years time you wouldn't know what a ZX Spectrum was. It has far more serious repercussions than regional ignorance.
@MontyMole Remember the NES only took off around Christmas 1990 because of the great pack in of TMNT with an NES. That was to the NES what the Batman Pack did for the Commodore Amiga.
@Sketcz If anything I think you'd be more than qualified to cover European gaming. A combination of your book experience and that you're willing to learn about that region of gaming. My biggest annoyance is European gaming not being seen as valuable as gaming released in America. Japan is also guilty of this ignorance. People outside of Europe should be celebrating and valuing games more from Europe. My boi Zool needs more love. π
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@Trmn8r I very much agree on this. Let's see how it pans out.
Re: "I'm Content To Take Any Complaints" - Thunder Force VI Designer Reflects On Why It Didn't Live Up To Expectations
@Axelay71 Okay. I haven't really experienced the games so thanks for clarifying. π
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@zazou703 I was generalising since it's mostly Americans but I fear that todays generation globally will remain ignorant of European gaming history. As far as America is concerned their history is what happened to everyone. πͺ
@Magic_Salmon_Pro One of the advantages of growing up in Europe is the market allows you to experience gaming from the three major regions rather than two.
@MegaManFan It's weird because I didn't even know there was a crash until American YouTubers talked about it. Shows how the UK was very unaffected.
Re: Full-Size Amiga Replica Delayed By Legal Action, Will Be Called 'THE A1200'
Well hopefully it has an actual 1200, not just the name.
Re: SEGAGAGA Director Says Developers Have Approached Him In The Past To Help Make A Sequel
A translation of the original game would be nice before a sequel. π
Re: "I'm Content To Take Any Complaints" - Thunder Force VI Designer Reflects On Why It Didn't Live Up To Expectations
@Axelay71 What do you think of 2?
Re: "A Lot Of People Hated Me For That Job" - Gunstar Super Heroes Director Opens Up About The Challenges Of The GBA Sequel
Was always disappointed we never got a console sequel. πͺ
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I still don't get the hype around their preservation program. π
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
@tektite_captain They were popular! π€¦ββοΈ
Re: Ex-Acclaim Dev Gives Closer Look At The Cancelled SNES Title 'Mortal Kombat Nitro'
@GhaleonUnlimited I always took to MK more than Street Fighter for some reason. I think it's because it's easier to make contact hits.
Re: "Poorly Analyzed US-Centric Garbage" - Why Do Americans Keep Ignoring European Gaming History?
It's the same amongst most American journalists and YouTubers. They think America is the centre of the world. What's more damaging and worrying is they refuse to want to learn about European gaming history.
I see the same on a certain Discord I visit where a few users are under the impression only Nintendo matters so of course their gaming contributions amount to Mario and PokΓ©mon posts. π
@AllieKitsune But it's ignorance I never see rectified. American gamers love being ignorant of gaming outside America.
@carlos82 Yeah I've seen YouTubers ignore SMS games released after that which is like half the library. π
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With Bad Dudes they're leaving out A LOT of ports that could be added.
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@PinballBuzzbro It's like having a hundred Sewer Shark's as magazines. π
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Why not just call the company Sensible Software?
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Before I read Larry's comment I would never have predicted this.
Re: The FPGA N64 Analogue 3D Has Been Delayed
@aaronjmill Analogue do not have a habit of supporting their older products.
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I totally forget about Counter-Strike.
Re: Toaplan's Arcade Cult Classic Wardner Is Coming To The Amiga
I imagine it would have been Elite that ported this back in the day.
Re: Publisher Unbound Slides Into Administration
@kkalata Well that's good to know. I look forward to picking up more books from you guys like Sega Console Classics Volume 2 eventually. Always entertaining to read. π
Re: You Now Have Another Chance To Get Your Hands On The Definitive Horror Game Docu-Series 'Terrorbytes'
@RZ-Atom I'm trying to ask someone if Serious Sam was included but can't get an answer as to whether it was left out. Oh well... π€·ββοΈ
Re: You Now Have Another Chance To Get Your Hands On The Definitive Horror Game Docu-Series 'Terrorbytes'
@RZ-Atom I do need to watch it but I feel Serious Sam doesn't get enough praise. It should have been included to show an FPS that was still doing the "boomer shooter" in the time of Half-Life.
Re: Publisher Unbound Slides Into Administration
I guess Hardcore Gaming 101 will have to find a new publisher.
Re: You Now Have Another Chance To Get Your Hands On The Definitive Horror Game Docu-Series 'Terrorbytes'
Haven't had a chance to watch it yet but does FPS: First Person Shooter even acknowledge Serious Sam? In retrospect it was a fairly important game for the time.
Re: Yet Another Dreamcast Racer Has Been Brought Back Online
That's really cool, good for them! π
Re: SuperSega Boss Is Now Trying To Block People Getting Refunds
@djslope Yep and they were all harassed and attacked regardless if they worked for the company.
Re: SuperSega Boss Is Now Trying To Block People Getting Refunds
@djslope People never wanted it to come out yet people who held faith were harassed and attacked online.