I'm glad it's fully decompiled, it sounds like a lot of work went into it.
Though the latter bit about someone wanting to rush out an AI assisted recomp to beat the slop makes no sense to me, it'll still be choc full of issues. It'll be released at the first point it's "playable" to plant their flag, how is that any different to all the other internet clout chasers? It's possible they're not in it for the likes but the quality of the port will be comparable.
@slider1983 When Doom first came out I don't think mouse was part of the default control setup. Me and my mates used to play just with keyboard until Quake came out.
Doom works well on controller, even with strafing set to the shoulder buttons.
I can't recall the order but the first day I ever played video games, was on my parent's Spectrum, I tried Atic Atac, PSSST and Manic Miner probably some others too, Horace Goes Skiing I think... Still haven't tried Knight Lore.
I hadn't heard of BitGlint, or their games, so cheers!
That looks awesome! I miss hearing the Spectrum sounds.
Still have my parent's rubber keyed 48K, I need to look into a non-tape based loader for it. Still got all the tapes but I imagine they'd disintegrate on use.
@Pennybags "I mean let’s say an unaided human developer came out with an 80% working core of a new system. Would your immediate reaction be that’s completely useless?"
Those are very different cases.
A human written version would be human readable and the developer would understand what they'd made in great detail. They'd be capable of continuing development and fixing bugs. Even if the project was continued by another developer they'd have a good chance of building on it as long as it was competently written and documented.
If it's AI generated there's a good chance they won't understand the output and won't be capable of fixing it themselves.
@Fanboy_Destroyer "21k a year and you think he's started this waffle about AI because it's ruining an open source project? An open source project he feels he's entitled to gate keep..."
The whataboutism doesn't address Jotego's points.
Could you explain what agreement or license Jotego has broken?
I've yet to explore the world of MiSTer in any great detail.
@DadGamerUK It may well be a factor, though it doesn't invalidate the issues raised.
On the $20k a month point though, they are immensely lucky to have found a niche and make significant funds from it, though those types of development opportunities are generally pretty fleeting and unreliable as people often don't subscribe unless something major is released. So good for them in the mean time!
Time Extension aren't pro gen AI much, they just wrote recently about a competing website that just generates all their extremely sloppy content. TE have an interest in that site not existing, but that doesn't mean their point of view on the subject is irrelevant because they're financially invested.
Same with me and my work, gen AI threatens it, I'd like to think I can still express an opinion on the subject.
@Kandowontu "People can't decide if they are mad that its AI, that its using MAME based code for chips that haven't been broken down, or that its going to "chase away real developers"."
Quote from that last tweet "You guys are fighting the steam engine during the industrial revolution. You already lost. AI is here and is transforming the world in real time. Get on board or get left behind."
This sort of line, which I've seen regurgitated over and over always conjures the sensation of a little bit of sick forming in the back of my throat.
Progress is apparently sitting around watching other people be productive and eventually pressing a magic button that transfers the credit to you whilst simultaneously smearing faeces on the thing.
@heligo I often experience cognitive dissonance when an industry leading company tells me they won't provide x services because "people don't want it any more, the market hath spoken", it's nearly always just them forcing change.
Though no doubt arcades have declined in popularity, there's still a financially viable demand, it just needs the right business model.
As is often the case, we don't value what we had until it's gone.
@Peteykins Haha yeah, that's one version of the infinite loop, I find that preferable to compulsively purchasing every variant. My wallet couldn't take it!
I've still got the OG GBA SP, I really should just replace the screen on that.
Every now and then I find myself looking into Anbernic handhelds, I usually end up weighing up getting one of the RG SP models but never pull the trigger.
If they could use GB/GBC/GBA carts I'd be more interested.
When I was a kid I was in London with family and we passed Sega World, before we moved on I had a couple minutes spare to look around, sadly no time to play anything but I did get to experience the ridiculously long escalator and soak in the sights n sounds. It blew my slightly tinier mind!
@QuarterSwede I've still got a magazine stored away with an advert/preview of the Ultra 64. Got an Ultra 64 jewel sticker for my modded Japanese console a few years back too.
I wonder if in a different timeline they chose a different name for Super Mario 64 without the number in the title, would we have seen so many other games with 64 in the name? There are quite a few.
Sounds interesting but if you're tech savvy enough to dump your own physical games I doubt you'd balk at sticking a few ROMs on your devices locally (with no lag or data use).
There is the cloud stuff which is a plus, but if you aren't dumping your own games then surely this is just a paper trail about all your naughty deeds?
If you go all out on the premium subscription it sounds like you're then burning tokens on some LLM service for translation and other AI features.
I think any console that departs from physical games is one step closer to irrelevance.
In my mind there are a handful of things that tether a successful brand like PlayStation in a strong and stable way. Three of those are hardware, intellectual property and software. They just made their hardware a bit less important.
Considering the hard push some in the industry have made for a streaming future, it's quite possible PlayStation and Xbox hardware will be reduced to a controller in the future. If that happens, all it'll take is something like the next Roblox with it's own streaming platform to reduce their market shares.
I'd rather PlayStation stuck around. I don't think that happens long term if we don't have our own hardware and software in our homes.
I'm not keen on the idea of a closed digital only console, especially with Sony revoking film purchases. I lack confidence in the idea of buying any more digital software from Sony.
@Coalescence Slop is the perfect term. It's such a short word that reflects perfectly the amount of effort put into the generation of said slop. Ending with a hard plosive is extra satisfying too!
@Daric Well clicks are what makes the internet go round.
I completely disagree with your classification of articles on this subject on Time Extension being rage bait or that it is irrelevant.
This piece is a continuation of the other recent Crazy Taxi pieces.
I see a similar opinion to yours expressed on PCGamer sometimes by a handful of commenters, it's generally in the spirit of "this is meant to be a gaming site", but the AI market directly effects the games industry and the hobby surrounding it.
I appreciate it's not your cup of tea but that doesn't mean the site should cater to you specifically, especially when pretty much everything to do with tech hardware and software is being effected by this unprecedented disruption.
Until the markets settle (and hopefully recede somewhat) and everyone gets comfortable with whatever the new norm is gonna be, this type of news is and will be relevant.
Geez, if I were SEGA I'd be on top of checking this stuff. It's obviously not a mortal sin, but it is indicative of their care and attention to detail.
If I were a betting man I'd say the odds are high that this stuff will make it into the game.
@metaphysician Not that I'm a Konami fan particularily, but this could threaten their profits to some degree as the game is still actively sold. If it were long abandoned I'd agree but it's not and they're currently revisiting older entries in the series.
It's good to hear more opinions from individuals working in or close to roles affected by this stuff. I don't really care what the Andrew Wilsons and Tim Sweeneys of the industry think.
As I was reading that I was expecting Heritage Auctions to come up, so I'm just gonna presume they "sold" it to a group of speculators and that it'll never leave the auctioneer's storage.
@h3s FPS games just port well to VR, so long as the hands can move independently, then all the other features they can cram in improve it further.
HL Alyx as you mentioned it is still (I think) the pinnacle of the genre. The feeling of the last bullet in your gun being fired and then having to duck behind something for cover while you fumble to reload is pretty special.
I've had many wonderfully hilarious moments trying to load individual bullets into a revolver (while under fire) in various games and just dropping the bullets on the floor. I'd be useless in a real life gun fight.
Also I have to wear glasses generally, I found that crazy irritating in VR, so I ordered prescription lenses. Game changer!
Also, not very impressive for 5 days of a (senior) dev's time.
The character controller is incredibly rigid, it's just a simple character controller moving in a bog standard ground adhering way (with a constant velocity) until it reaches a surface where the mesh normals are not facing close to up or down, then it magically slides around.
There's a handful of extremely basic meshes, a simple grass/foliage shader and a very basic water shader.
I mean it's not nothing, but it's not good.
I don't understand why they'd show this off publicly.
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Re: "The Best Official Versions" - New Banjo-Kazooie Deep Dive Shows Just How Sharp It Looks On The New Evercade Nexus
Busy on the 2nd one on A3D at the moment. The Evercade version looks excellent. Will definitely pick it up!
Re: Try To Act Surprised, But It Looks Like That Zelda: BotW 3DS 'Demake' Was Vibe-Coded
@Zeebor15 Are you an android sent back in time to correctly point the finger at AI slop the day before that fact is discovered?
Re: After 9 Years Of Work, GoldenEye 007 N64 Is Now 100% Decompiled
@Graslu Fair enough. I'd just forgo the poison part and wait personally. Good luck with it though!
Re: After 9 Years Of Work, GoldenEye 007 N64 Is Now 100% Decompiled
I'm glad it's fully decompiled, it sounds like a lot of work went into it.
Though the latter bit about someone wanting to rush out an AI assisted recomp to beat the slop makes no sense to me, it'll still be choc full of issues. It'll be released at the first point it's "playable" to plant their flag, how is that any different to all the other internet clout chasers? It's possible they're not in it for the likes but the quality of the port will be comparable.
Re: Evercade DOOM Collection + Evercade Nexus DOOM Edition Officially Announced
@Martin_H Yes, it wasn't the default.
Re: Evercade DOOM Collection + Evercade Nexus DOOM Edition Officially Announced
@slider1983 When Doom first came out I don't think mouse was part of the default control setup. Me and my mates used to play just with keyboard until Quake came out.
Doom works well on controller, even with strafing set to the shoulder buttons.
Re: Fans of Knight Lore & Atic Atac, Take Note! This Ultimate Play The Game / Rare Tribute Is Getting A Playdate Exclusive Spin-Off
That trap door transition is super satisfying!
I can't recall the order but the first day I ever played video games, was on my parent's Spectrum, I tried Atic Atac, PSSST and Manic Miner probably some others too, Horace Goes Skiing I think... Still haven't tried Knight Lore.
I hadn't heard of BitGlint, or their games, so cheers!
Re: The ZX Spectrum Just Got A Colourful Pac-Man Style Game That You Can Play Right Now For Free
That looks awesome! I miss hearing the Spectrum sounds.
Still have my parent's rubber keyed 48K, I need to look into a non-tape based loader for it. Still got all the tapes but I imagine they'd disintegrate on use.
Re: Here's Why LucasArts Couldn't Call Their Game Star Wars Episode 1: Podracer
My neighbour had POD. We quite enjoyed messing around on it, the vehicles seemed very weighty, which suited the vehicle designs I thought.
Re: "The Most Gorgeous Game Boy Emulation I've Ever Seen" - Brick Boy Goes The Extra Mile To Copy The Console's Nostalgic Display
Is it essentially a filter built into a fork of an existing emulator? Or something else?
Re: A New N64 EverDrive Flash Cart Has Been Released With A Dedicated 64DD Core
@RupeeClock Summercart supports 64DD already, though I have yet to try the feature out.
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@aikon82 That seems like a good idea.
Does the UpdateAll function actually install all, rather than just updating what you've got installed?
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@Pennybags "I mean let’s say an unaided human developer came out with an 80% working core of a new system. Would your immediate reaction be that’s completely useless?"
Those are very different cases.
A human written version would be human readable and the developer would understand what they'd made in great detail. They'd be capable of continuing development and fixing bugs. Even if the project was continued by another developer they'd have a good chance of building on it as long as it was competently written and documented.
If it's AI generated there's a good chance they won't understand the output and won't be capable of fixing it themselves.
Re: Evercade DOOM Collection Leaks Ahead Of Full Announcement
Nice! I've not picked up anything Evercade yet but I'm thinking of starting with the Nexus. This and the Rare stuff will likely be where I start.
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@Thad Oh dear...
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@Fanboy_Destroyer I'm at a loss as to why you reacted in that way.
What crime has Jotego commited?
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@Fanboy_Destroyer "21k a year and you think he's started this waffle about AI because it's ruining an open source project? An open source project he feels he's entitled to gate keep..."
The whataboutism doesn't address Jotego's points.
Could you explain what agreement or license Jotego has broken?
I've yet to explore the world of MiSTer in any great detail.
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@DadGamerUK It may well be a factor, though it doesn't invalidate the issues raised.
On the $20k a month point though, they are immensely lucky to have found a niche and make significant funds from it, though those types of development opportunities are generally pretty fleeting and unreliable as people often don't subscribe unless something major is released. So good for them in the mean time!
Time Extension aren't pro gen AI much, they just wrote recently about a competing website that just generates all their extremely sloppy content. TE have an interest in that site not existing, but that doesn't mean their point of view on the subject is irrelevant because they're financially invested.
Same with me and my work, gen AI threatens it, I'd like to think I can still express an opinion on the subject.
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@Kandowontu "People can't decide if they are mad that its AI, that its using MAME based code for chips that haven't been broken down, or that its going to "chase away real developers"."
That sounds like three pretty good reasons.
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
@DadGamerUK Do you disagree with the cores they made being "their"s?
Re: "You Might As Well Play On A Raspberry Pi" - The World Of MiSTer FPGA Remains Divided Over "AI Slop" Cores
Quote from that last tweet "You guys are fighting the steam engine during the industrial revolution. You already lost. AI is here and is transforming the world in real time. Get on board or get left behind."
This sort of line, which I've seen regurgitated over and over always conjures the sensation of a little bit of sick forming in the back of my throat.
Progress is apparently sitting around watching other people be productive and eventually pressing a magic button that transfers the credit to you whilst simultaneously smearing faeces on the thing.
The future is bright, the future smells funny.
Re: Random: "That Would Be Wonderful" - Count Binface Wants To Reboot London's SegaWorld
@heligo I often experience cognitive dissonance when an industry leading company tells me they won't provide x services because "people don't want it any more, the market hath spoken", it's nearly always just them forcing change.
Though no doubt arcades have declined in popularity, there's still a financially viable demand, it just needs the right business model.
As is often the case, we don't value what we had until it's gone.
Re: "Relive The Pure Joy Of The 2D Golden Era" - Meet The RG SP, Anbernic's Latest GBA SP-Inspired Handheld
@Peteykins Haha yeah, that's one version of the infinite loop, I find that preferable to compulsively purchasing every variant. My wallet couldn't take it!
I've still got the OG GBA SP, I really should just replace the screen on that.
Re: "We're Taking You Closer To The Event Than Ever Before" - Early Conker & Banjo Footage Among Materials Preserved In New VGHF E3 Collections
I love these old videos, thanks for drawing attention to them!
Re: "Relive The Pure Joy Of The 2D Golden Era" - Meet The RG SP, Anbernic's Latest GBA SP-Inspired Handheld
Every now and then I find myself looking into Anbernic handhelds, I usually end up weighing up getting one of the RG SP models but never pull the trigger.
If they could use GB/GBC/GBA carts I'd be more interested.
They seem very good regardless.
Re: Random: "That Would Be Wonderful" - Count Binface Wants To Reboot London's SegaWorld
When I was a kid I was in London with family and we passed Sega World, before we moved on I had a couple minutes spare to look around, sadly no time to play anything but I did get to experience the ridiculously long escalator and soak in the sights n sounds. It blew my slightly tinier mind!
Re: Latest Analogue 3D Update Introduces "Internal Graphical Upscaling"
That's pretty special. Guess I'm stopping working an hour early!
Re: "This Sucks Ass" - Mario Kart Wii Is Getting An AI-Assisted Recomp, And Some People Aren't Happy
Awesome article.
Very much feels like a race to the bottom with these vibe coded projects.
Re: A Legendary Japanese Game Dev Once Told Miyamoto Mario 64 Was Like "A Really Strict After-School Sports Club"
@QuarterSwede I've still got a magazine stored away with an advert/preview of the Ultra 64. Got an Ultra 64 jewel sticker for my modded Japanese console a few years back too.
I wonder if in a different timeline they chose a different name for Super Mario 64 without the number in the title, would we have seen so many other games with 64 in the name? There are quite a few.
Re: A Legendary Japanese Game Dev Once Told Miyamoto Mario 64 Was Like "A Really Strict After-School Sports Club"
The Shoshinkai video is amazing! Watching people playing Mario 64 for the first time takes me back.
I swear my bottom fell out when that person went straight into the volcano level before they'd even worked out how to rotate the camera.
Re: "Games Like PaRappa The Rapper Don't Get Made Anymore" - Shawn Layden Thinks Mainstream Gaming Has Gotten Too Safe
This seems to have been the case in AAA for a very long time. Not as much with indie though.
Re: "This Whole Thing Has Just Been A Slap To My Face" - Dreamcast RPG Tricolore Crise Just Got An AI Fan Patch, & People Aren't Happy
Grim Reaper: "What was your greatest accomplishment in life?"
AI Chud: "Farmed some internet clout!"
Re: Agent 64 Is The Perfect Dark & GoldenEye 007 Successor We've Been Waiting For, And It Arrives Next Month
Sounds up my street, I'll keep an eye on it post launch to see how it fares.
Re: "PSP And Dreamcast Are The Most Likely To Land Next" - Afterplay Creator On Pushing The Limits Of Browser-Based Emulation
Sounds interesting but if you're tech savvy enough to dump your own physical games I doubt you'd balk at sticking a few ROMs on your devices locally (with no lag or data use).
There is the cloud stuff which is a plus, but if you aren't dumping your own games then surely this is just a paper trail about all your naughty deeds?
If you go all out on the premium subscription it sounds like you're then burning tokens on some LLM service for translation and other AI features.
It does sound a clever idea though.
Re: I'm Really Not Sure How I Feel About Sony Killing Physical Media
I think any console that departs from physical games is one step closer to irrelevance.
In my mind there are a handful of things that tether a successful brand like PlayStation in a strong and stable way. Three of those are hardware, intellectual property and software. They just made their hardware a bit less important.
Considering the hard push some in the industry have made for a streaming future, it's quite possible PlayStation and Xbox hardware will be reduced to a controller in the future. If that happens, all it'll take is something like the next Roblox with it's own streaming platform to reduce their market shares.
I'd rather PlayStation stuck around. I don't think that happens long term if we don't have our own hardware and software in our homes.
Re: I'm Really Not Sure How I Feel About Sony Killing Physical Media
I'm not keen on the idea of a closed digital only console, especially with Sony revoking film purchases. I lack confidence in the idea of buying any more digital software from Sony.
Re: Sega Appears To Have Been Caught Using GenAI Again, This Time With Dreamcast Keychains
@Coalescence Slop is the perfect term. It's such a short word that reflects perfectly the amount of effort put into the generation of said slop. Ending with a hard plosive is extra satisfying too!
Re: Sega's Crazy Taxi Spins Its Wheels Thanks To Another GenAI Kerfuffle
@Daric The fact that you wilfully refuse to admit a common thread that brought it light is impressive.
Do try to enjoy the rest of your day!
Re: Sega's Crazy Taxi Spins Its Wheels Thanks To Another GenAI Kerfuffle
@Daric Well clicks are what makes the internet go round.
I completely disagree with your classification of articles on this subject on Time Extension being rage bait or that it is irrelevant.
This piece is a continuation of the other recent Crazy Taxi pieces.
I see a similar opinion to yours expressed on PCGamer sometimes by a handful of commenters, it's generally in the spirit of "this is meant to be a gaming site", but the AI market directly effects the games industry and the hobby surrounding it.
I appreciate it's not your cup of tea but that doesn't mean the site should cater to you specifically, especially when pretty much everything to do with tech hardware and software is being effected by this unprecedented disruption.
Until the markets settle (and hopefully recede somewhat) and everyone gets comfortable with whatever the new norm is gonna be, this type of news is and will be relevant.
Re: Sega's Crazy Taxi Spins Its Wheels Thanks To Another GenAI Kerfuffle
@Daric Rather than pointing fingers at those that oppose your own desired reading subjects, you may find value in reading the room.
There's obviously a lot of interest and concern regarding this topic expressed by it's readers
Why did you read it at all? Your click confirms that the article was worth displaying.
Re: Sega's Crazy Taxi Spins Its Wheels Thanks To Another GenAI Kerfuffle
Geez, if I were SEGA I'd be on top of checking this stuff. It's obviously not a mortal sin, but it is indicative of their care and attention to detail.
If I were a betting man I'd say the odds are high that this stuff will make it into the game.
Re: Konami Is Suing To Find The Identity Of The Metal Gear Solid 2 Source Code Leaker
@metaphysician Not that I'm a Konami fan particularily, but this could threaten their profits to some degree as the game is still actively sold. If it were long abandoned I'd agree but it's not and they're currently revisiting older entries in the series.
Re: "Capture, Preserve, And Share" - Analogue 3D Firmware Update Introduces Gallery Mode
Lovely stuff, another substantial feature. Bangin!
Re: Site News: Want To Work On Time Extension? Now's Your Chance
That sounds like a fun job! I'm in the UK and a gaming obsessive but I've got zero journalism experience.
Re: "It Feels Like Intellectual Theft" - Bitmap Bureau Isn't A Fan Of GenAI
It's good to hear more opinions from individuals working in or close to roles affected by this stuff. I don't really care what the Andrew Wilsons and Tim Sweeneys of the industry think.
Re: "Not Touched For Nearly 40 Years" - Rare Copy Of Super Mario Bros. Sells For $3 Million
As I was reading that I was expecting Heritage Auctions to come up, so I'm just gonna presume they "sold" it to a group of speculators and that it'll never leave the auctioneer's storage.
Re: "This Is From Zelda, If You Didn't Know" - Test Footage Highlights The Danger Of Using GenAI In Video Game Development
@Martin_H Reading your comment is quite illuminating.
You actually think by typing some prompts that YOU have created the output? Now that is delusion!
Re: "This Is From Zelda, If You Didn't Know" - Test Footage Highlights The Danger Of Using GenAI In Video Game Development
@Martin_H Does that clan still exist? Perhaps the copyright/trademark has lapsed, it's been a good few hundred years since they were big players.
Re: "The Best Shooter Experience I've Had With Virtual Reality" - A Public Version Of Perfect Dark's VR Port Is Coming Soon
@h3s FPS games just port well to VR, so long as the hands can move independently, then all the other features they can cram in improve it further.
HL Alyx as you mentioned it is still (I think) the pinnacle of the genre. The feeling of the last bullet in your gun being fired and then having to duck behind something for cover while you fumble to reload is pretty special.
I've had many wonderfully hilarious moments trying to load individual bullets into a revolver (while under fire) in various games and just dropping the bullets on the floor. I'd be useless in a real life gun fight.
Also I have to wear glasses generally, I found that crazy irritating in VR, so I ordered prescription lenses. Game changer!
Re: "This Is From Zelda, If You Didn't Know" - Test Footage Highlights The Danger Of Using GenAI In Video Game Development
That's vile.
Also, not very impressive for 5 days of a (senior) dev's time.
The character controller is incredibly rigid, it's just a simple character controller moving in a bog standard ground adhering way (with a constant velocity) until it reaches a surface where the mesh normals are not facing close to up or down, then it magically slides around.
There's a handful of extremely basic meshes, a simple grass/foliage shader and a very basic water shader.
I mean it's not nothing, but it's not good.
I don't understand why they'd show this off publicly.