In the terms and conditions, once you have finished with a Dev Kit or Test Kit you need to send it back, complete with all of the original cables (and especially in the case of Nintendo, who expect the ORIGINAL video cables, so no swapping out for third party ones). As noted in the article, the Dev and Test Kits remain the property of Nintendo.
So Sega will have messed up if they had send these consoles to a digital shredding service. However, if they had, then it still does not excuse the shredding service for having sold them on. And if they had just been thrown in the bin and recovered by a company they hired to clear the office then Sega have still messed up.
This is an absolute shambles. Ten officers to do a raid to recover some consoles on behalf of a corporation? Yeah, that's not heavy handed in the slightest... Except it totally is. I can't recall off the top of my head who did this previously, but the "approach target with private investigator followed by involving the police" was a tactic deployed in the USA by either Microsoft or Sony (can't remember which) when someone was able to acquire Dev Kits from their developer website and sell them online.
Either way this is a shambles. The police handling the investigation should be investigated for their very obvious mishandling of the case so far.
Totally bonkers project that will never happen but I would love to do if I have unlimited time, money, and resources; Paying David Hayter to re-record all of the Snake likes from Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain, then mod them into the game. But this is sheer fantasy land, it'll never happen.
@Forgotten_Worlds Sorry to disappoint you, but it is not a genre mash-up. It is a strategy game using the R-Type IP. There's no element of shoot-em-up gameplay in this at all.
@Kushan I'm not ignorant, I just hadn't seen that additional context until you pointed it out, which is completely fair. I should not be required to watch someone's videos because someone says so, but simultaneously I thank you for bringing that additional context to my attention.
@Kushan I won't watch any of his videos, nor any of the other bigger name UK people (who almost all seem to reside in the South, weird that) who get pushed on viewers by YouTube's suggestion algorithm. And that's perfectly fine.
Barcadia went under only recently with reports of staff not being paid, and yet he has the money to be spending on a brand new studio space. Priorities, right?
At this point may as well just report on the announcement itself and cut out the middle man, otherwise we get announcements of announcements, waste of time.
@retrosumus The headline claims: "You Still Have A Week To Make This Promising New Dreamcast Game A Reality".
In the article there is the following quote "We don’t really have a budget or a publisher behind us. We did it all by ourselves, sometimes by hand, quite literally. A backup plan could be finding a publisher that believes in the project and is willing to at least partially fund the rest of the development. Or simply wait for a few months, reconsider things, and come back (or not) with a different strategy."
The headline is saying that it can only be a reality if people back the Kickstarter. The article states that if people don't back it then there is a plan B of finding alternative ways to fund it, which contradicts the headline.
In addition, I've seen far too many of these crowdfunding campaigns which didn't meet their target only to find a publisher, or sometimes when they did meet their crowdfunding target still get a publisher and all of the additional funding which comes from it. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that doesn't happen, and having worked in the industry I am very much of the opinion that crowdfunding is expecting people to make non-secured pre-orders for a title which may never be delivered, which is just wrong. I am also not ignorant towards how crowdfunding campaigns are primarily run in the modern day as a promotional exercise rather than to acquire vital funds without which the game will never be made.
And to be frank, if you didn't sell enough with your previous project to fund your next project then your business model is clearly not working. Nothing personal there, I'm just telling it how it is.
It looks like the headline is a lie. If they don't meet their crowdfunding goal then it'll likely still be released anyway.
Let's also mention that many titles which do meet their crowdfunding goal will find a publisher anyway, and that the crowdfunding campaign was merely a promotional pre-order exercise.
@slider1983 Sure he might have them feature in his videos, but to essentially blame them for pushing him into using Generative AI possibly trained upon stolen datasets is pretty shambolic.
This new Commodore trademarks owner guy using his wife and kid as an excuse to use AI with possibly stolen datasets for their output reminds me of a developer a few years ago who would spam his game in places where it wasn't warranted, and when called out for it blamed his mother having cancer for his spamming. Like, eh? How does one get from "mother has cancer" to "that means I feel like I need to spam by game everywhere"? Or in this case, "I have a busy life because I have a family" to "I'll use possibly stolen datasets for my AI output"?
I can't tell if their use of AI images for the promotion is leaning into the AI theme of the title, or if they're just lazy skinflints who cannot be bothered to actually produce their own key art.
That being said, it is shoddy how Sorrel has been treated.
Reading further it is sad that System 3 is now also one of the AI lot. Oh well.
That's dodgy if the staff didn't get paid. Hospitality staff are generally low-paid as it is. That would make it especially cheeky since they mentioned, "the margins in hospitality which were already incredibly tight, were just getting tighter and tighter, meaning something had to give".
They can romanticise it however they want, but I really hope that it is not being done whilst having screwed their staff out of pay.
@GeneJacket And still the author of that strategy guide didn't bother to check with Capcom, very clearly. Yeah except all of those are licenced media, or in the case of RE Resistance was a nickname given to the character by another character done as a nod to fans, not as an official naming, otherwise you're also saying that the same character is officially named "Trenchy" too for the same reason.
In RE2 Remake the enemy is listed in the model viewer as "Tyrant".
The question of who cares is answered easily, evidently yourself given your reply.
This is a brilliant idea, pretty much a remake of the RE2 parts of Umbrella: The Darkside Chronicles, but with the assets of the RE2 remake!
Just a shame the article's author referenced a character who doesn't exist. There's a character called Tyrant, but they've never had the name "Mr. X", that was some fake name given by a US strategy guide because the author couldn't be bothered to look up the character's actual name, and has been falsely parroted as their official name ever since.
@jamess Was Grok doing that in-between claiming it is MechaHitler (which it was literally doing not too long ago) and making all kinds of other racist claims?
I don't get why people making that kind of post always announce at the start "I had a chat with <insert AI name here>". Frankly, we don't care.
I don't have the money to be pre-ordering games which might never be released, because that's all crowdfunding is. Yes, it has hit it's target, cool, I might buy it if/when it is released then.
@nocdaes I've literally never heard of Hollywood Bowl before today. Having just looked them up, they look *****, like the ticket arcades which make up the main roads on seaside resorts. The fact is that Arcade Club is very obviously profitable at multiple venues (unlike the place in this article, sadly), so they have no issue, other than the ones you're inventing.
Miss me with the "leaving money on the table" garbage, we see that from the idiots in modern day gaming all the time. If Arcade Club charged per play then they would become unprofitable overnight, as the appeal of the Arcade Club venues is the combination of one-price-on-the-door-free-play, the sheer amount of choice in games available, and with the range of games offered being from brand new stuff to all of the retro classics.
"an entire day playing arcades is not a big market!", said the clown who has never stepped foot inside Arcade Club.
Arcade Club in Bury is easily the single most successful arcade in the UK, and that is £18 in and free games all day. They've been so successful with that pricing model that they have opened another two venues in Leeds and Blackpool.
That's ***** silly of them. Would have made far more sense to do the PS4 release instead of PS5, considering all PS5s are backwards compatible with PS4 titles.
@GeneJacket Weird claim, Sony never made any "promise" of playing PSP titles on the device, and it did play PS1 titles (hence Crash Bandicoot being available on any Xperia Play device having run a standard install).
It's nice for the people who were ***** stupid and would not store their Wavebird adaptors with the controllers and lose them.
I think I would personally prefer a Bluetooth adapter for the new wireless GameCube controllers Nintendo are releasing, that way I can use a wireless controller and have rumble support, a win/win.
@vicviper001 In a word, yes, if you use the widely-available UpdateAll script which downloads everything you need to get started and all of the arcade ROMs it supports. Just add your own games into the appropriate folders, define your controls, and off you go.
I ditched my Pis for the same reason, and although my experience with the Pis helped for setting up a MiSTer, once it was set up I've had no issues whatsoever as long as I periodically run the aforementioned UpdateAll script which grabs any new cores or core updates released.
Trust a YouTube video to make up things which were not true in reality.
Fact check time.
1. The series was not taken off-air midway through its run. It was originally two series one shown in 1994 and the other in 1995. That was always the plan.
2. The second series was not placed at 9:25am, at least not in the Granada region where it was shown at the usual Sunday evening slot.
Additional things the YouTuber missed because they've probably only seen what was uploaded to YouTube:
1. The champions of both seasons returned for one final champion of champions episode.
2. In that episode, Android was moving around the complex giving the mission briefings after the command centre they usually occupied was attacked.
"Back in February, Dearth tried to crowdfund the project's development on Kickstarter but unfortunately failed to raise half of his £3990 goal. Despite that, he's continued working on the game ever since"
Because it wasn't about crowdfunding, it was about taking pre-orders for a game which may never be delivered.
If it were actual crowdfunding then development wouldn't have continued despite missing their fundraising goal.
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Re: Nintendo Wii Games Are Finally Getting RetroAchievement Support Next Year
The thing I love about retro gaming is that there isn't all of this blinking stuff constantly bombarding the player, such as achievements.
I can play a game and be absolutely fine with completing it or not without feeling the need to show it off to others.
But this is a wider subject, people feeling that everything must be broadcast, that quiet enjoyment of hobbies is something to be looked down upon.
Re: Sega Accused Of Using Police To Recover Nintendo Dev Kits It Had "Negligently Disposed Of"
In the terms and conditions, once you have finished with a Dev Kit or Test Kit you need to send it back, complete with all of the original cables (and especially in the case of Nintendo, who expect the ORIGINAL video cables, so no swapping out for third party ones). As noted in the article, the Dev and Test Kits remain the property of Nintendo.
So Sega will have messed up if they had send these consoles to a digital shredding service. However, if they had, then it still does not excuse the shredding service for having sold them on. And if they had just been thrown in the bin and recovered by a company they hired to clear the office then Sega have still messed up.
This is an absolute shambles. Ten officers to do a raid to recover some consoles on behalf of a corporation? Yeah, that's not heavy handed in the slightest... Except it totally is. I can't recall off the top of my head who did this previously, but the "approach target with private investigator followed by involving the police" was a tactic deployed in the USA by either Microsoft or Sony (can't remember which) when someone was able to acquire Dev Kits from their developer website and sell them online.
Either way this is a shambles. The police handling the investigation should be investigated for their very obvious mishandling of the case so far.
Re: Random: "That's Wild" - The Fact That Two French Devs Didn't Play Nintendo As Kids Appears To Have Upset Some People
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Re: Anniversary: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Is 10 Years Old Today
Totally bonkers project that will never happen but I would love to do if I have unlimited time, money, and resources; Paying David Hayter to re-record all of the Snake likes from Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain, then mod them into the game. But this is sheer fantasy land, it'll never happen.
Re: The Long Wait For 'R-Type Tactics I • II Cosmos' Could Soon Be Over
@Forgotten_Worlds Sorry to disappoint you, but it is not a genre mash-up. It is a strategy game using the R-Type IP. There's no element of shoot-em-up gameplay in this at all.
Re: "I Lost Myself" - Nostalgia Nerd Opens Up On "Starting Again"
@slider1983 That's not what you said. You asked me to name the accounts in question, not what I meant by what I said.
Re: "I Lost Myself" - Nostalgia Nerd Opens Up On "Starting Again"
@slider1983 I have no interest in discussing nor debating my opinion on it, thank you.
Re: "I Lost Myself" - Nostalgia Nerd Opens Up On "Starting Again"
@Kushan I'm not ignorant, I just hadn't seen that additional context until you pointed it out, which is completely fair. I should not be required to watch someone's videos because someone says so, but simultaneously I thank you for bringing that additional context to my attention.
Re: "I Lost Myself" - Nostalgia Nerd Opens Up On "Starting Again"
@Kushan I won't watch any of his videos, nor any of the other bigger name UK people (who almost all seem to reside in the South, weird that) who get pushed on viewers by YouTube's suggestion algorithm. And that's perfectly fine.
Re: "I Lost Myself" - Nostalgia Nerd Opens Up On "Starting Again"
@PXAbstracftion Fair play, if the claims were false then I retract what I said fully.
Re: "I Lost Myself" - Nostalgia Nerd Opens Up On "Starting Again"
Barcadia went under only recently with reports of staff not being paid, and yet he has the money to be spending on a brand new studio space. Priorities, right?
Re: "I Think A Lot Of AAA Titles Miss The Mark On What Makes A Game Fun" - Retro YouTuber Launches New Nostalgia-Focused Game Studio
Oh look, another Kickstarter which wants its customers to shoulder the risk for the developer's passion.
Re: "We Truly Hope To Restore Confidence" - Delayed Mega Drive / Genesis Shmup Gets New Demo After Loss Of Publishers
Oh look, another crowdfunded shambles.
Re: Revived Game Publisher Acclaim Is Teasing A "Big" Announcement For Next Week
At this point may as well just report on the announcement itself and cut out the middle man, otherwise we get announcements of announcements, waste of time.
Re: "We Are Well Aware That It Is Hardly Possible At This Point" - You Still Have A Week To Make This Promising New Dreamcast Game A Reality
@retrosumus The headline claims: "You Still Have A Week To Make This Promising New Dreamcast Game A Reality".
In the article there is the following quote "We don’t really have a budget or a publisher behind us. We did it all by ourselves, sometimes by hand, quite literally. A backup plan could be finding a publisher that believes in the project and is willing to at least partially fund the rest of the development. Or simply wait for a few months, reconsider things, and come back (or not) with a different strategy."
The headline is saying that it can only be a reality if people back the Kickstarter. The article states that if people don't back it then there is a plan B of finding alternative ways to fund it, which contradicts the headline.
In addition, I've seen far too many of these crowdfunding campaigns which didn't meet their target only to find a publisher, or sometimes when they did meet their crowdfunding target still get a publisher and all of the additional funding which comes from it. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that doesn't happen, and having worked in the industry I am very much of the opinion that crowdfunding is expecting people to make non-secured pre-orders for a title which may never be delivered, which is just wrong. I am also not ignorant towards how crowdfunding campaigns are primarily run in the modern day as a promotional exercise rather than to acquire vital funds without which the game will never be made.
And to be frank, if you didn't sell enough with your previous project to fund your next project then your business model is clearly not working. Nothing personal there, I'm just telling it how it is.
Re: "We Are Well Aware That It Is Hardly Possible At This Point" - You Still Have A Week To Make This Promising New Dreamcast Game A Reality
It looks like the headline is a lie. If they don't meet their crowdfunding goal then it'll likely still be released anyway.
Let's also mention that many titles which do meet their crowdfunding goal will find a publisher anyway, and that the crowdfunding campaign was merely a promotional pre-order exercise.
No thank you.
Re: Talking Point: A Curious Contradiction At The Core Of "New" Commodore Makes Me Uncomfortable
@slider1983 Sure he might have them feature in his videos, but to essentially blame them for pushing him into using Generative AI possibly trained upon stolen datasets is pretty shambolic.
Re: Talking Point: A Curious Contradiction At The Core Of "New" Commodore Makes Me Uncomfortable
This new Commodore trademarks owner guy using his wife and kid as an excuse to use AI with possibly stolen datasets for their output reminds me of a developer a few years ago who would spam his game in places where it wasn't warranted, and when called out for it blamed his mother having cancer for his spamming. Like, eh? How does one get from "mother has cancer" to "that means I feel like I need to spam by game everywhere"? Or in this case, "I have a busy life because I have a family" to "I'll use possibly stolen datasets for my AI output"?
Re: Poll: How Do You Pronounce "Amiga"?
Only yanks start with the "Ah". To everyone else it starts with "Am".
But that's yanks trying to rewrite video game history. Again.
Coming up next: Why can't yanks read the word "Mario" and keep reading it as "Morio"?
Re: "I Hate Almost Everything They Do With A Passion" - James Pond's Creator Isn't A Fan Of Gameware's AI-Focused Sequel
I can't tell if their use of AI images for the promotion is leaning into the AI theme of the title, or if they're just lazy skinflints who cannot be bothered to actually produce their own key art.
That being said, it is shoddy how Sorrel has been treated.
Reading further it is sad that System 3 is now also one of the AI lot. Oh well.
Re: "I Wouldn't Change A Thing" - Nostalgia Nerd's Crowdfunded Arcade Bar 'Barcadia' Is No More
That's dodgy if the staff didn't get paid. Hospitality staff are generally low-paid as it is. That would make it especially cheeky since they mentioned, "the margins in hospitality which were already incredibly tight, were just getting tighter and tighter, meaning something had to give".
They can romanticise it however they want, but I really hope that it is not being done whilst having screwed their staff out of pay.
Re: Resident Evil Just Got A New Arcade Game, But You'll Have To Travel To Romford To Play It
@beltmenot I was referring to the author of the strategy guide in that last comment, for clarification. I've edited it to reflect that.
Re: Resident Evil Just Got A New Arcade Game, But You'll Have To Travel To Romford To Play It
@GeneJacket And still the author of that strategy guide didn't bother to check with Capcom, very clearly. Yeah except all of those are licenced media, or in the case of RE Resistance was a nickname given to the character by another character done as a nod to fans, not as an official naming, otherwise you're also saying that the same character is officially named "Trenchy" too for the same reason.
In RE2 Remake the enemy is listed in the model viewer as "Tyrant".
The question of who cares is answered easily, evidently yourself given your reply.
Re: Resident Evil Just Got A New Arcade Game, But You'll Have To Travel To Romford To Play It
This is a brilliant idea, pretty much a remake of the RE2 parts of Umbrella: The Darkside Chronicles, but with the assets of the RE2 remake!
Just a shame the article's author referenced a character who doesn't exist. There's a character called Tyrant, but they've never had the name "Mr. X", that was some fake name given by a US strategy guide because the author couldn't be bothered to look up the character's actual name, and has been falsely parroted as their official name ever since.
Re: The Super Rare Arcade Game 'Akuma Mortis Immortal' Has Just Been Preserved
@KingMike What would the other two owners have done? Have a cry about it?
Re: Talking Point: If You Think AI Can Make SNES Games, We Have Some Magic Beans We'd Love To Sell You
@jamess So what you're actually saying there is that it's fine to have an AI spewing racist lies as proclaimed "facts"?
That's one hell of a self-tell.
Re: Talking Point: If You Think AI Can Make SNES Games, We Have Some Magic Beans We'd Love To Sell You
@jamess Was Grok doing that in-between claiming it is MechaHitler (which it was literally doing not too long ago) and making all kinds of other racist claims?
I don't get why people making that kind of post always announce at the start "I had a chat with <insert AI name here>". Frankly, we don't care.
Re: Blindfolded Speedrunner Sets New Super Mario 64 World Record "After Months & Months Of Chokes"
"After Months & Months Of Chokes"
Sounds like they were in dire need of someone doing the Heimlich Manoeuvre on them, what took them this long?!
Re: This Man Now "Owns Commodore", But His Use Of Generative AI Has Some Fans Worried
What they call a "fun YouTube channel" is a business at heart.
He got the money to buy Commodore from his YouTube videos. Those videos contain Generative AI.
Let's not be giving free passes here.
Re: Strike Series Designer Outlines Plans For A Spiritual Successor, But You'll Have A Long Wait Before You Can Play It
@JackGYarwood The Amiga port of Desert Strike was the best, but we seldom see Amiga ports in retro collections.
Re: Here's Your Third (And Probably Final) Chance To Own A ZX Spectrum Next
A small reminder that the MiSTer has a ZX Spectrum Next core, so if you don't get one of these you can still just get a MiSTer and use that instead.
Re: "People Love This Stuff. It Just Means The Market Got Overheated" - How COVID Created A Retro Gaming Bubble
@Sketcz There's always flash carts too.
Re: Writers Of 'Did You Know Gaming' Book Published By Unbound "Received £79 Each For Over 7 Years Of Work"
And this is why nobody should touch crowdfunding with a bargepole.
Re: Nightmare Busters Rebirth May Be Getting A New Boss Designed By A Star Fox & F-Zero Legend
I don't have the money to be pre-ordering games which might never be released, because that's all crowdfunding is. Yes, it has hit it's target, cool, I might buy it if/when it is released then.
Re: "It's Just Not Working" - FreePlay Arcade Will Close Its Doors Later This Month
@nocdaes It was open yesterday. And the day before. And the day before that. And also the day before that too. And it will be open again on Thursday.
Weird that.
Re: "It's Just Not Working" - FreePlay Arcade Will Close Its Doors Later This Month
@nocdaes I've literally never heard of Hollywood Bowl before today. Having just looked them up, they look *****, like the ticket arcades which make up the main roads on seaside resorts. The fact is that Arcade Club is very obviously profitable at multiple venues (unlike the place in this article, sadly), so they have no issue, other than the ones you're inventing.
Miss me with the "leaving money on the table" garbage, we see that from the idiots in modern day gaming all the time. If Arcade Club charged per play then they would become unprofitable overnight, as the appeal of the Arcade Club venues is the combination of one-price-on-the-door-free-play, the sheer amount of choice in games available, and with the range of games offered being from brand new stuff to all of the retro classics.
"an entire day playing arcades is not a big market!", said the clown who has never stepped foot inside Arcade Club.
Re: "It's Just Not Working" - FreePlay Arcade Will Close Its Doors Later This Month
@nocdaes That's a complete and utter joke.
Arcade Club in Bury is easily the single most successful arcade in the UK, and that is £18 in and free games all day. They've been so successful with that pricing model that they have opened another two venues in Leeds and Blackpool.
So yeah, no.
Re: Strictly Limited Games Cancels Physical PS4 Release Of Parasol Stars & Spica Adventure
That's ***** silly of them. Would have made far more sense to do the PS4 release instead of PS5, considering all PS5s are backwards compatible with PS4 titles.
Re: Ruff ‘n’ Tumble x Worms Is The Dream Mash-Up For Amiga Fans, And It Might Just Happen
@Pnutttz Who owned the rights in the end?
Re: Anbernic Might Be Creating A Spiritual Successor To Sony's Ill-Fated Xperia 'PlayStation Phone'
@GeneJacket Weird claim, Sony never made any "promise" of playing PSP titles on the device, and it did play PS1 titles (hence Crash Bandicoot being available on any Xperia Play device having run a standard install).
Re: Anbernic Might Be Creating A Spiritual Successor To Sony's Ill-Fated Xperia 'PlayStation Phone'
Honestly the form factor looks ***** in comparison to the PSP Go and Xperia Play.
And without standard mobile phone functionality is a hard pass.
Re: The WavePhoenix Brings Nintendo's Best Controller Back To Life For $5
It's nice for the people who were ***** stupid and would not store their Wavebird adaptors with the controllers and lose them.
I think I would personally prefer a Bluetooth adapter for the new wireless GameCube controllers Nintendo are releasing, that way I can use a wireless controller and have rumble support, a win/win.
Re: Random: Former CeX Staffer Holds Reddit AMA, And The First Question Is A Doozy
Which role were you auditioning for? Hurley or Gervais?
Re: The Cost Of Owning A MiSTer FPGA Is About To Come Down Dramatically
@vicviper001 In a word, yes, if you use the widely-available UpdateAll script which downloads everything you need to get started and all of the arcade ROMs it supports. Just add your own games into the appropriate folders, define your controls, and off you go.
I ditched my Pis for the same reason, and although my experience with the Pis helped for setting up a MiSTer, once it was set up I've had no issues whatsoever as long as I periodically run the aforementioned UpdateAll script which grabs any new cores or core updates released.
Re: Do You Remember Scavengers, The Alien-Style UK Game Show From The '90s?
Trust a YouTube video to make up things which were not true in reality.
Fact check time.
1. The series was not taken off-air midway through its run. It was originally two series one shown in 1994 and the other in 1995. That was always the plan.
2. The second series was not placed at 9:25am, at least not in the Granada region where it was shown at the usual Sunday evening slot.
Additional things the YouTuber missed because they've probably only seen what was uploaded to YouTube:
1. The champions of both seasons returned for one final champion of champions episode.
2. In that episode, Android was moving around the complex giving the mission briefings after the command centre they usually occupied was attacked.
Re: 'Tricky Madness' Is An Exciting New Indie Game Inspired By SSX Tricky
"Back in February, Dearth tried to crowdfund the project's development on Kickstarter but unfortunately failed to raise half of his £3990 goal. Despite that, he's continued working on the game ever since"
Because it wasn't about crowdfunding, it was about taking pre-orders for a game which may never be delivered.
If it were actual crowdfunding then development wouldn't have continued despite missing their fundraising goal.