@Friendly No.

He is correct. AI is a tool. It can help, but it cannot think and it cannot express. That's what humans are for.

It's also a big reason why AI fearmongering is silly.

Also, if anyone thinks Nintendo isn't using AI behind the scenes, you're fooling yourselves. I promise you they are, as they should be.

@h3s Well said.

There are upcoming games on Steam right now that use AI in some capacity that look good. One is SaviorS: Oath of the Blade:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4409740/SaviorS_Oath_of_the_Blade/

(Hookshot writers, don't go attacking the game please. Have some decency.)

AI is a tool that is giving devs access to resources that was previously the domain of the rich.

I hope Steam ignores all the outcry.

You don't need AI to make slop. Among the games using AI in Next Fest are both slop and gems.

@breach187 Saying the quiet part out loud. AI derangement is just elitism, no different than when people decried synth music for not being orchestral, or films for not being the theatre.

I, too, fear my work being iterated upon by the collective intellect of humanity. Worship my conservative stance on the issue.

@HonkBonkX I mean, I am 85% fiber-optics and carbon steel...

@Runex21 This 100%, and not one person has, nor ever will be able to refute this.

Rich person toy from this era (yet with no lit screen) runs game less good than a Sega MD/Genesis from the 90s.

@Daniel36 Though I don't entirely agree I respect the level-headedness here. I'll aim to emulate (aka, steal) that.

@Damo "Sorry, you can't ignore members of staff"

@81632bit I was raised on two languages so I have a much easier time picking up cues and meanings from languages I don't speak, even ones very different from my own. But I know people who only ever were taught one, and picking up those same cues is very difficult for them.

This is something AI can aid in, and it will despite the doom-and-glooming of people proclaiming it some biblical evil. 100% chance those same people will decry innocent things as "ableist" while failing to understand how monstrously ableist they're being.

@Damo They've spotted squat and said nothing of merit, same as you. But I accept your surrender.

@dodgykebaab Irrelevant. Data centers regardless of their purpose need not be built in areas and in ways that are disruptive to everyday, ordinary people, nor do they need to fuel mass surveillance like Flock.

You can argue semantics about data centers all you like, but a) AI still uses a comparatively small footprint compared to things like YouTube and 2) even if that mattered it's less important than ensuring they're built and used to uplift people over profit.

@GhaleonUnlimited Anti-AI articles drive engagement, unfortunately.

AI neither went rogue nor solved the Navier-Stokes problem, and it isn't conscious:
https://www.patreon.com/richardseymourwtf/posts/kill-all-humans-169276703

The "AI is destroying the environment" argument is misleading:
https://andymasley.substack.com/p/the-ai-water-issue-is-fake

The internet, including this page you're reading, right now, runs on data centers:
https://petercoffin.substack.com/p/data-center-derangement-syndrome

If AI is "theft" then so is any inspiration and iteration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XegV-KnmxqU

@Damo I read the content in your links save the one novel of a PDF, and even there I gave it a fair bit of attention. You've done nothing of the sort with mine, as evidenced by your inability to address any of the points made in them (the way I did with yours) and resorting to the appeal of authority about how yours are academic (as if academia is immune to capital, bias, or misinformation).

I'm aware it won't move the needle for you; you've proven that your needle is immovable, regardless of the validity of arguments against. It's why I didn't tag you on them initially; there are commenters here who smell the rotten core of these anti-AI non-arguments who may want more information, and the links I posted are for them, not you.

@Damo In order:

• No you didn't and no they weren't.
• Already addressed and debunked, repeatedly.
• AI is more accessible to more people than ever, putting a tool that massively speeds up intelligence gathering and research in the hands of the people when it used to be the domain of the rich. A video on that topic that you won't even bother clicking on, about how AI is actually a threat to useless executive roles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci-Mm_TUS0E
• I didn't respond to you in this topic initially, you vied for MY attention despite me repeatedly saying I'd have you blocked if the site let me. And I gave you the benefit of the doubt by even reading what you posted, something you did not grant in return.

"Sorry, you can't ignore members of staff."

@LordBritish Saying again: don't cave to the reactionaries, please. You do you. You've done nothing wrong, and if you cave to reactionaries, you'll hobble yourself and they won't "forgive" you regardless.

@Damo That child's work was directly influenced by their experiences, like everything else.

And hey, you said something right for once: AI can't do that! That is correct. And also irrelevant. AI output requires a human to give it value and meaning, the same way that child's experiences need them to draw it to give him some tangible expression.

If AI is "theft," that little kid who drew a picture that stemmed from their experiences that day/week/etc. is also a "thief." That did is no thief and AI isn't theft.

This is degrowther nonsense.

@Damo It is 100% apparent you didn't actually look at any of the links I shared, since you have nothing to say about the points any of them made. None of them are reactionary, and all are well reasoned and well argued.

But I will do for you what you didn't do for me, and actually review what you posted here. My response to each:

• Ignores data center usage by things other than AI (which is significantly more) and advances in places like China that have fewer data centers despite more advanced AI tech;
• This long PDF report that I doubt you've actually read covers a great many topics. I didn't go through the whole thing because it's a novel (and again, you didn't even so much as click what I posted), but it doesn't address things like data centers used in surveillance (a bad thing, to be sure) and how the Global South is using AI as infrastructure. So it is, like your arguments, lacking.
• This cites debunked water usage arguments. It also rightfully points out that AI actually uses way less energy than things like YouTube, while still concluding "AI bad." Such argument, much convincing.
• "Since 1907, BOMA has been supporting property owners, managers, service providers and property professionals of all commercial building types with advocacy, influence and education." Gotta make sure we get what landlords have to say, right?

The rest is just more of the "AI is theft" nonsense that ignores that all art is inspired by and draws from what came before, and is addressed in what I posted which you, yet again, did not even so much as consider reading. At all.

So, as I've said to you before: "Sorry, you can't ignore members of staff."

And it's good to see more and more commenters not buying the BS.

@Martin_H This is the correct question to ask. Nothing is original... but nothing is UNoriginal either. Creativity is subtractive, chiseling away at the rock to express ourselves.

@Ruka Nah, I did. Just because you didn't want to read what I had to say doesn't mean I didn't read what you posted.

The post you made following this, without a shred of irony, is proof you don't bother reading arguments other than what lines up with your own.

@h3s Well said. One reason AI is an amazing tool is because it puts what used to be at the exclusive disposal of the rich and powerful at the fingertips of anyone, allowing creativity and ingenuity to shine through.

@Ruka I read just fine, thank you, and what I said stands.

He needs not cater to the anti-AI mob, who are a loud and insufferable minority.

@Ruka The people you want him to cater to are a tiny minority of loud, insufferable people. No different than the loud, insufferable people mad when a new build of a game has slightly less breast jiggling or something equally inconsequential.

The vast majority of human beings do not care one iota whether or not something uses AI. Echo chambers do not reflect reality.

@LordBritish You're level headed and I hope you don't cave to these reactionaries in the future.

AI neither went rogue nor solved the Navier-Stokes problem, and it isn't conscious:
https://www.patreon.com/richardseymourwtf/posts/kill-all-humans-169276703

The "AI is destroying the environment" argument is misleading:
https://andymasley.substack.com/p/the-ai-water-issue-is-fake

The internet, including this page you're reading, right now, runs on data centers:
https://petercoffin.substack.com/p/data-center-derangement-syndrome

If AI is "theft" then so is any inspiration and iteration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XegV-KnmxqU

The latest AI bogeyman is how it's apparently going to destroy humanity, backed by AI CEOs who totally suddenly care about humanity you guys.

It ain't because Chinese AI is leagues ahead and open source, and said CEOs want to monopolize the technology, no sir. AI CEOs Care™.

See also: Landback, 15 minute cities, etc.

Reactionary anti-AI nonsense per usual.

HD Remix exists and everyone hated it for zero good reason.

Super Turbo purists are insufferable.

That's rad.

filler

IP law is an aberration.

This is, like everything else both arms of the Uniparty does, a distraction. And it's working: people upset at it tarnishing Sega and gaming in general, distracted from the forever wars and the fact that eliminating all poverty in America AND affording all its citizens free, high quality healthcare would cost significantly less than said forever wars.

Also, anyone making silly claims about how evil the American public is for voting the way they did is a fool. The Uniparty is resilient because it presents one arm as the alternative to the other. In the case of the last election, Trump actively condemned the very wars that he is now mired in, while his opponent actually claimed he was too soft on the topic, so people understandably assumed he'd be anti-war. It was a trap, similar to the one the other side will pull in a couple of years.

All distraction. They are one party posing as two.

@ people saying I'm passing off my opinions as facts: lol no, never did that even once. That's what you do. Insert joke about projecting better than CRTs did.

@DestructoDisk I never argued for the efficacy of early LCDs, though I do remember that yeah, the motion blur was awful. Though things built for an LCD (Game Boy games) did use some motion blur trickery for effects too.

I happened to have one of those late, 16:9 CRTs. It had component inputs and it was a favorite of mine because it looks closer to modern display crispness, though I'm sure some purist (not you) would probably hate it and point to some picture of Crono's hair not being blurred enough or something. That set could go all the way to 1080i, though 480p/720p looked better on it.

CRT computer monitors fared better true, especially with VGA, or early monochrome which was super crisp.

I'll grant you this: it is entirely possible that as you said, folks' memories and experiences with CRT may be tainted. Perhaps if I had at least VGA-level inputs from my Atari 2600 days I'd have more nostalgia for CRT sets.

@845H Yeah, I can already feel my hands cramping just looking at the thing.

@Scummy I didn't foresee anything, genius, I gradually got exposed to better sets and better cables, going from RF boxes to composite, to S-Video, to component/HDMI. And yes, when I went back to older things, I hated them. Even as a kid.

@flamespear86 I appreciate going for a specific look, really I do. It's a look I've always hated, even as a kid.

@SgtSega of course! A human hand is still needed to correct issues. AI is a tool, not a creator in and of itself.

@Ruka Stuff like cross hatching to fake transparency, sure. Otherwise, what I said stands.

@ihaveallthecoins No.

@Reechard lol no they didn't. CRT blur depends on a variety of factors: make, model, age, where you place it in your home, where on Earth you happen to live, and like 17 other metrics that ensure what you see and what I see, even on the same set in relatively close proximity, aren't the same.

My opinion is based on what I prefer, and from my experience growing up with CRTs in the 80s and 90s. There are no gaps there. YOU might hate that I like different things than you do, but that is, as already stated, childish.

I like how you're threatening me with the exact thing I said is my preference. I will enjoy my crisp, beautiful, unblurred pixels, while you literally turn beet red IRL wondering why I can't see the CRT adding definition to SotN Dracula's lips or whatever.

@jason160uk Ain't no one stopping you.

@mjparker77 The lag or lack thereof is factual. The "looking better" is not, and only children think their highly personal subjective opinions are factual.

CRTs look like garbage. Always have, always will. <-- Opinion, not fact, no different than yours. Give me dem crisp pixels, which are about 7000x better than the blurry messes that CRT purists insist are gold.

As for input lag, while CRTs are still king, modern display lag is so minimal that even someone like me, who plays fighting games and through old Mega Man games on the regular and who definitely notices even a frame or two of lag, is just fine.

@alexybubble Totally fair.

Grew up with CRTs. Hated them then, hate them now. CRT purists are silly people, and this device won't satisfy them. If they can't blow up a blurry image, compare it to a blown up pixelated image, and scream "SEE?" as if the blurry one looks better than the other, they won't want it.

And of course, the reactionary, "sadly, they used AI." Makes me want to buy the thing out of spite.

@Daniel36 I will!

No AI, so virtue signalers can feel important while they play!

Anywho, cool to see PC ports of N64 games.

Gives me a Zelda 2 vibe (the BEST Zelda game).

@Davestator If cretins think I have bad takes, I'm doing something right.

I backed this. Can't wait.