@Atariboy Valid point considering the puritan signaling they did over no longer covering ModRetro. Why aren't they also doing a song and dance (with comments turned off) over how SNK will no longer get covered?
@Razieluigi Nope, it's a valid comparison. Collecting available information to compile into a new whole is what art is: editing. You draw from and are inspired by what came before, and put your spin. Nothing is (un)original. AI just speeds that up.
That doesn't mean you can't put out AI slop, just like how you can put out lazy advertising without AI. If that's your complaint, say so: "SNK's ad feels lazy." Turning it into an anti-AI engagement piece accomplishes nothing and serves noone.
@Darknyht If AI is "theft" then so is any inspiration and iteration. Very good video on the topic that debunks common arguments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XegV-KnmxqU
The issues with wealth disparity are real, but it isn't because of AI.
A Wizardry-esque game (might've been Wizardry proper) on a school's Apple ][e was my introduction to RPGs, so games like this his a nostalgic note with me.
@Eocene84 Capitalism created abundance, and was an absolutely necessary step in the growth of humanity. We need to move on from it, yes, but the issue is not "capitalism always bad."
@Exerion76 Yeah, a lot of 70s and 80s floppies were built to last. Now there is the issue of magnetic degradation, which no amount of careful handling will prevent, but the overall build quality really went downhill over the years.
Yeah no it won't. Just like how cars remain immensely helpful for ordinary folks despite evil corporations lining their pockets with gold via automobiles, AI will remain immensely helpful for ordinary folks despite big corporations using it to try to get even richer.
The only thing this AI fearmongering does is encourage a world where WE are denied it, but the rich and powerful still get to use it with impunity.
As long as they make only minimal changes to Metal Shark Player's stage. Best stage in the game: tough, brutal, but fair, and one that a steady hand and skilled play can navigate around.
@Slider2711 Literally everything, AI and otherwise, will be abused by greedy billionnaire interests. That particular argument against AI is about as valid as arguing against people using cars because big auto manufacturers lobby governments for handouts.
Automation, where it makes sense, is a GOOD thing. The BAD thing is the system that keeps us all afraid of one day not getting a paycheck.
Some people didn't play Nintendo in NA and other parts of the world either. Maybe they were a Sega household, or had computers and played PC games, etc. I knew at least one of each.
Anyone actually mad about this is a grade A moron.
@AzzurraIrisLeaMonde I appreciate all that, but I caution against being so quick to raise pitchforks against others. Even if that person is indeed all of those things, it will accomplish nothing and serve noone.
@AzzurraIrisLeaMonde Are they actually any of these things or are you just looking to further a different kind of corporate BS in the form of cancel culture?
@jesse_dylan Yes, and normally one of those benefits is that a device is not priced as though it DOES have a lit screen. Also not everyone has easy access to natural light.
While there are some "worst episode of anything in the history of anything" contenders (e.g., Curse of the Lion Men), there are some legit great episodes (e.g., Mega X). The good outweighs the bad.
The article is paywalled so I can't confirm, but it seems clear the idea is to compare video game AI with how generative AI amasses and presents data.
It isn't an entirely outlandish comparison, if you boil everything down to its base. And like everything else to do with AI fearmongering, being mad about the comparison is silly.
@jamess It will never replace the "soul" of art because that is the creator's voice, and that requires a human being. Art is in the editing, in the chipping away, in the taking of what came before. Nothing is wholly (un)original, which is why the AI fearmongering nonsense is exactly that.
But as to the crux of your post on how AI continues to improve, it does continue to make impressive gains. AI is a fantastic tool for people, but barring a Dr. Light/Wily making an artificial brain, it won't supplant human creativity.
@xenobladexfan I've been playing games since the 80s and what you're saying is lunacy. There were politically charged titles back then, and there are great games without that nonsense today. You're just looking for a reason to be a retro snob.
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Re: A New Framework For Making Sonic Fangames Is Currently In The Works, From The Creator Of Sonic CDX
Gonna keep an eye on this, for... reasons...
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
@DestructoDisk Well said.
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
@Atariboy Valid point considering the puritan signaling they did over no longer covering ModRetro. Why aren't they also doing a song and dance (with comments turned off) over how SNK will no longer get covered?
Re: Community Challenge: Can You Beat Battletoads' Most Notorious Level?
Turbo Tunnel ain't anywhere near the hardest thing in this very hard game.
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
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Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
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Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
@Razieluigi Nope, it's a valid comparison. Collecting available information to compile into a new whole is what art is: editing. You draw from and are inspired by what came before, and put your spin. Nothing is (un)original. AI just speeds that up.
That doesn't mean you can't put out AI slop, just like how you can put out lazy advertising without AI. If that's your complaint, say so: "SNK's ad feels lazy." Turning it into an anti-AI engagement piece accomplishes nothing and serves noone.
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
@Quick_Man No.
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
@Sn0w See above.
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
@Darknyht If AI is "theft" then so is any inspiration and iteration. Very good video on the topic that debunks common arguments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XegV-KnmxqU
The issues with wealth disparity are real, but it isn't because of AI.
Re: The Making Of: Dungeon Master, A Truly Trailblazing First-Person RPG
A Wizardry-esque game (might've been Wizardry proper) on a school's Apple ][e was my introduction to RPGs, so games like this his a nostalgic note with me.
Re: "I Can't Promote A Product That I Don't Support" - SNK Mod Steps Down Over Fatal Fury "AI Slop" Trailer
A pointless backlash to a harmless ad, but gotta keep up the AI fearmongering for the engagement.
Re: "Beyond Incredibly Dumb" - The Internet Doesn't Like People Sealing Up Graded 3DS Consoles
As long as they remove the battery first, who cares. It's their console to do with as they please.
Re: AI's Insatiable Hunger For RAM Is Going To Play Havoc With The Emulation Handheld Industry In 2026
@Eocene84 Capitalism created abundance, and was an absolutely necessary step in the growth of humanity. We need to move on from it, yes, but the issue is not "capitalism always bad."
Re: AI's Insatiable Hunger For RAM Is Going To Play Havoc With The Emulation Handheld Industry In 2026
@Por-E-Gone The concerns are illegitimate, and the theatrics around this accomplish nothing and serve noone.
Re: AI's Insatiable Hunger For RAM Is Going To Play Havoc With The Emulation Handheld Industry In 2026
Cool, more blaming automation for the folly of class society.
Gotta keep that fearmongering going!
Re: "THIS IS THE END" - The Man Behind The Infamous SuperSega Console Finally Admits Defeat
I still believe.
Re: Capcom President Teases "New Releases, Remakes, And Ports" Could Be On The Way For Mega Man & Two Other Classic IPs
I hunger for Mega Man 12 and X9.
And Legends 3, but I dare not hope.
Re: Hyper Sentinel Fusion Ships On A "Floppy Disk" And Is Coming To Kickstarter Soon
@Exerion76 Yeah, a lot of 70s and 80s floppies were built to last. Now there is the issue of magnetic degradation, which no amount of careful handling will prevent, but the overall build quality really went downhill over the years.
Re: "AI Is Gonna Eventually Eat Itself... Like When We Fed Cows With Cows And Got Mad Cow Disease"
Yeah no it won't. Just like how cars remain immensely helpful for ordinary folks despite evil corporations lining their pockets with gold via automobiles, AI will remain immensely helpful for ordinary folks despite big corporations using it to try to get even richer.
The only thing this AI fearmongering does is encourage a world where WE are denied it, but the rich and powerful still get to use it with impunity.
Re: This New Mega Man X6 Fan Reimagining Aims To Fix One Of The Series's Most Disappointing Entries
As long as they make only minimal changes to Metal Shark Player's stage. Best stage in the game: tough, brutal, but fair, and one that a steady hand and skilled play can navigate around.
Re: Eternal Hunters Is A New SNES Action RPG That Looks Part Secret Of Mana, Part Chrono Trigger
@jygsaw Let the fearmongering commence!
Re: Random: This Modded GBA Can Play Most RPGs "From Start To Finish In A Single Charge"
Maximum portability!
Re: Final Fantasy Composer Nobuo Uematsu Has Never Used AI, "And Probably Never Will"
@Slider2711 Literally everything, AI and otherwise, will be abused by greedy billionnaire interests. That particular argument against AI is about as valid as arguing against people using cars because big auto manufacturers lobby governments for handouts.
Automation, where it makes sense, is a GOOD thing. The BAD thing is the system that keeps us all afraid of one day not getting a paycheck.
Re: Final Fantasy Composer Nobuo Uematsu Has Never Used AI, "And Probably Never Will"
Yay for more AI fearmongering!
Funny how there were no articles about Hideo Kojima's recent (and reasonable) tweats about AI.
Re: This $75 Nintendo DS-Focused Emulation Handheld Is Set To Launch Next Month
I'd like a real DS Lite modded into this case.
Re: "None Of Them Matter" - There's Only One Donkey Kong In Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson's Life
Quick guys, let's all take this out of context and be offended by it.
Re: 40 Years After It Launched, This Fan-Made Remake Has Given Us The Ultimate Way To Play Super Mario Bros.
@breach187 I break all sealz
Re: 40 Years After It Launched, This Fan-Made Remake Has Given Us The Ultimate Way To Play Super Mario Bros.
Miyamoto seething right now lol.
Best nab it now in case Nintendo gets litigious.
Re: Nintendo Of America Didn't Think Pokémon "Was Going To Take Off In The US", And It Wasn't Alone
I got one of those flower crown Eevees in Pokemon Go and it evolved into a Flareon that I then named Fireflowerz.
Re: Random: "That's Wild" - The Fact That Two French Devs Didn't Play Nintendo As Kids Appears To Have Upset Some People
Some people didn't play Nintendo in NA and other parts of the world either. Maybe they were a Sega household, or had computers and played PC games, etc. I knew at least one of each.
Anyone actually mad about this is a grade A moron.
Re: Google Could Be Killing Android Emulation With Its New Policy Update
@AzzurraIrisLeaMonde I appreciate all that, but I caution against being so quick to raise pitchforks against others. Even if that person is indeed all of those things, it will accomplish nothing and serve noone.
Re: Google Could Be Killing Android Emulation With Its New Policy Update
@Grackler I wonder if Ubuntu Touch could be an option too...
Re: Google Could Be Killing Android Emulation With Its New Policy Update
@AzzurraIrisLeaMonde Are they actually any of these things or are you just looking to further a different kind of corporate BS in the form of cancel culture?
Re: Google Could Be Killing Android Emulation With Its New Policy Update
Yup. All corporate BS to serve their paymasters.
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
@Tomtomwho You're a tad younger than I am. Glad your kids like the thing. I also liked garbage when I was a child.
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
@N64-ROX I am 102% certain there is nothing on the Playdate that doesn't have a much, much, muuuuuuuuuch better counterpart elsewhere.
Rich kid toy for rich people and those with issues hanging on to their money. Not trolling to call it what it is.
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
@jesse_dylan Yes, and normally one of those benefits is that a device is not priced as though it DOES have a lit screen. Also not everyone has easy access to natural light.
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
@naxuu I'm sorry they took your money.
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
@ArcadeRacingCENTRAL I have replaced "slop" with "garbage" just for you.
Re: Adorable Dragon-Themed Platformer 'Dono's Tale' Taps Super Mario Kart Composer For Its Soundtrack
Comment section is a fantastically depressing example of how brainwashed people are into defending IP law.
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
I still can't believe the PlayDate found an audience. People love overpriced garbage consoles lacking even a basic lit screen it seems.
Re: Mega Man's 1994 Animated Series Is Getting The Definitive Home Release Fans Have Been Waiting For
@Johnny_Arthur There are way worse things, including 99.6% of modern anime.
Re: Mega Man's 1994 Animated Series Is Getting The Definitive Home Release Fans Have Been Waiting For
Yessssssssss! So good.
While there are some "worst episode of anything in the history of anything" contenders (e.g., Curse of the Lion Men), there are some legit great episodes (e.g., Mega X). The good outweighs the bad.
Re: "No Generative AI Was Used In Earthion's Final Version" - Yuzo Koshiro Debunks GenAI Rumour
@cyxceven Yup, and if you point that out, you're "unconstructive."
Re: This Keio Flying Squadron 2 Patch Fixes A Decades-Old Crime Against American Saturn Fans
I love those old dubs. Nostalgia.
Re: Random: AI Taking Game Industry Jobs Is OK Because Of Pac-Man, Says The New York Times
The article is paywalled so I can't confirm, but it seems clear the idea is to compare video game AI with how generative AI amasses and presents data.
It isn't an entirely outlandish comparison, if you boil everything down to its base. And like everything else to do with AI fearmongering, being mad about the comparison is silly.
Re: Talking Point: If You Think AI Can Make SNES Games, We Have Some Magic Beans We'd Love To Sell You
@jamess It will never replace the "soul" of art because that is the creator's voice, and that requires a human being. Art is in the editing, in the chipping away, in the taking of what came before. Nothing is wholly (un)original, which is why the AI fearmongering nonsense is exactly that.
But as to the crux of your post on how AI continues to improve, it does continue to make impressive gains. AI is a fantastic tool for people, but barring a Dr. Light/Wily making an artificial brain, it won't supplant human creativity.
Re: BBC Recently Covered The Rise Of Retro Gaming - See If You Can Spot The Problem
@xenobladexfan I've been playing games since the 80s and what you're saying is lunacy. There were politically charged titles back then, and there are great games without that nonsense today. You're just looking for a reason to be a retro snob.
Re: BBC Recently Covered The Rise Of Retro Gaming - See If You Can Spot The Problem
Gamers exist in 2025 without developing deep resentments over nothing challenge (failed).
Oh no there's an NES cartridge in an SNES, the horror.