@Thomystic The review is kind of silly to even compare this to a PSOne, TBH. Aside from looking like the shell of a PSOne and playing the MiSTer PS core, there is so much more that the SSOne actually does! It's basically a single board MiSTer, with QoL upgrades, front SNAC based dual PS ports for two controllers (and everything an original PS can handle), and two PS memory cards.
Just like a MiSTer, you will have access to play hundreds of console/handheld/PC/arcade board FPGA cores. It has a plethora of I/Is. Including HDMI outputs, along with analog outputs (composite, Svideo, component, RGB, VGA), and you can output on multiple outs at the same time. Great for those of us with both a CRT (or two) and an HDTV, and it leaves another open to stream through.
The part that made me go with this, over a MiSTer, aside from it being consolized, which is perfect for a nice living room setup, was the SuperDock add-on. As someone who has thousands of old physical game discs (PCEngine CD/TG-16 CD, CD-i, 3DO, Sega CD, PSX, Saturn, will work with the Dock optical drive), I will enjoy using this option. Not to mention it'll also include more SNAC inputs, an SSD drive bay, and some other options, for $50.
I would definitely include "huge shipping delays" as a Con. I ordered mine in January.... Of 2025. Back when the expected shipment of both the SSOne + SuperDock was 4th quarter of 2025. I do think he managed to get a dozen or so systems out between Christmas and December 31st of 2025, but 16 months after pre-ordering mine I still have no idea when mine will ship out. I also guess I missed the message about splitting up the pre-order to have just the SSOne to ship without the SuperDock,,which I don't think has even come off the production line as of yet? That is my only concern. I think he'll eventually come through on delivering them all, but as someone who tends to get burned by a lot of pre-orders, especially with Paprium, from Watermelon (Fonzie), which I pre-ordered from the main store, years before it went to Kickstarter and stole another million dollars from other idiots (as he would go on to call us).. Great guy! 😕 Anyway. I just hope Taki doesn't take on any other projects before he's caught up on delivering this one. I've been noticing that he can start too many things and there is only so much that someone can do at one time. I often see posts about people ordering Switch OLED replacement displays from years ago, which haven't gotten theirs yet. I can't speak to whether any of them at legit or not, but his lack of replies to them can be a little concerning.
I hope that the Console UI is finished by the time I get it. I also hope that I get my bundle before we hit another new year!
I really hope this turns out as well as they are claiming it to. SNK/P burned us with the Neo•Geo X. It was expensive, and looked great, hardware wise. The system looked the part. The arcade sticks were said to be 1:1 identical. They were not! They weighed about half as much as the original and didn't feel the same. Then you had the whole stolen Final Burn Alpha emulator issue, awful HDMI video output (blurry and not synched), backwards stereo audio channels, and many more issues.
I'm not that familiar with Plaion Replai, but I do know they produced the Atari 2600+ for Atari, which was using software emulation, and did have a lot of incompatible games, as well as some hardware issues. I just think people see "Neo•Geo" and "1:1 perfect", and think it's automatically going to be identical to SNK's 1990 system. Just because it's ASIC doesn't guarantee it's 1:1. I'd like to see the board / chip configuration. I'd like to know which revision of the console is being cloned here. All of them have positive and negative things. I.E. some have better composite output quality, but poor RGB quality. Some have issues with JAILBARS on the video, and dithering issues. That would be an instant fail to see. Does the Neo•Geo+ even had RGB output? We need more info. I'm also going to guess that the cheaper carts are using a flash ROM (NOR flash), or EEPROM configurations, as opposed to the original permanent MASK ROMS. Just something to consider.
I've tried to correct you a couple times in the past, but I really think you should get the initial pricing / wording correct here.
"the base console initially cost $649.99 in the US, and each cartridge would set you back a couple of hundred dollars"
The "base console" was called the Neo•Geo Silver System, which was the AES + 1x arcade stick, and was only $399.99 at launch. Which was 12/22/1990 in the USA. The Neo•Geo Gold System (2x arcade sticks + 1x game – from a choice between NAM-1975 and BASEBALL STARS PRO (NGH-001 and NGH-002, respectfully).
The AES cartridges were initially dynamically priced, based on the ROM size. This ranged from between $120 and $170. For example, League Bowling, a "26MEG" 26 megabit game, was selling for $120, while Top Player's Golf, a 62MEG, sold for $170. These prices went up to $199.99 during the summer of 1991, when they were being sold at Babbage's and Electronics Boutique retailers.
As some of you guys have stated, without an actual CRT, I just don't think this will do the Vectrex any justice. The mini CRT IS the heart of the Vectrex. You really need to see an actual Vectrex in person to truly appreciate it. I bought one with my older brother, at a Toys R Us, on closeout in 1984. A $50 Vectrex, $5 games, and a $10 second joystick. We plugged it into our shared room, and dimmed the lights.. It was an amazing site! I put this on par with first experiencing the Neo•Geo AES in my living room, playing the exact arcade games that we were used to playing. Or the first time playing VR. You can explain it all you want, but it needs to be appreciated by your own eyes in person.
I fear that people will feel the games are not that special on a modern display. A small one at that. I have played the Vectrex FPGA core on the beautiful Analogue Pocket's high resolution 1600px screen and while it does look very nice, and also has support for all of the color overlays, but you are just missing the phosphorus glow, and other pixel elements that make the experience so unique. I'm still interested in this and will watch for it.
Is that Neo-Geo MVS running an LCD display at a stretched aspect ratio? Yuck! This is not how classic arcade cabs should be running. Either do it right, (CRTs, original quality controls, sound, cabs), or stick to just setting up consoles, or emulators on displays.
Where is the Wii U Pro Controller?! I personally love those. I like them much more than the Switch Pro Controller. It's a shame that Nintendo didn't add support for those on the Switch. They'd have been perfect.
They're entire sales pitch is a FAMILY FRIENDLY game system. Tommy was claiming that Nintendo has games with, and I quote... "Child rape". Which is course is untrue. Does he really believe Nintendo would allow this to happen on their system?! He's betting the entire Amico success on the hopes that parents won't be able to enable the very simple, and effective, PARENTAL SETTINGS, on the Switch, and other consoles.
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Re: Review: SuperStation One - This $210 FPGA PlayStation Puts Sony's PS Classic To Shame
@Thomystic The review is kind of silly to even compare this to a PSOne, TBH. Aside from looking like the shell of a PSOne and playing the MiSTer PS core, there is so much more that the SSOne actually does! It's basically a single board MiSTer, with QoL upgrades, front SNAC based dual PS ports for two controllers (and everything an original PS can handle), and two PS memory cards.
Just like a MiSTer, you will have access to play hundreds of console/handheld/PC/arcade board FPGA cores. It has a plethora of I/Is. Including HDMI outputs, along with analog outputs (composite, Svideo, component, RGB, VGA), and you can output on multiple outs at the same time. Great for those of us with both a CRT (or two) and an HDTV, and it leaves another open to stream through.
The part that made me go with this, over a MiSTer, aside from it being consolized, which is perfect for a nice living room setup, was the SuperDock add-on. As someone who has thousands of old physical game discs (PCEngine CD/TG-16 CD, CD-i, 3DO, Sega CD, PSX, Saturn, will work with the Dock optical drive), I will enjoy using this option. Not to mention it'll also include more SNAC inputs, an SSD drive bay, and some other options, for $50.
Re: Review: SuperStation One - This $210 FPGA PlayStation Puts Sony's PS Classic To Shame
I would definitely include "huge shipping delays" as a Con. I ordered mine in January.... Of 2025. Back when the expected shipment of both the SSOne + SuperDock was 4th quarter of 2025. I do think he managed to get a dozen or so systems out between Christmas and December 31st of 2025, but 16 months after pre-ordering mine I still have no idea when mine will ship out. I also guess I missed the message about splitting up the pre-order to have just the SSOne to ship without the SuperDock,,which I don't think has even come off the production line as of yet? That is my only concern. I think he'll eventually come through on delivering them all, but as someone who tends to get burned by a lot of pre-orders, especially with Paprium, from Watermelon (Fonzie), which I pre-ordered from the main store, years before it went to Kickstarter and stole another million dollars from other idiots (as he would go on to call us).. Great guy! 😕 Anyway. I just hope Taki doesn't take on any other projects before he's caught up on delivering this one. I've been noticing that he can start too many things and there is only so much that someone can do at one time. I often see posts about people ordering Switch OLED replacement displays from years ago, which haven't gotten theirs yet. I can't speak to whether any of them at legit or not, but his lack of replies to them can be a little concerning.
I hope that the Console UI is finished by the time I get it. I also hope that I get my bundle before we hit another new year!
Re: "No Emulation, No Compromise, No Comparison" - The $250 Neo Geo+ AES Aims To Be A 1:1 Replica Of SNK's Classic Console
I really hope this turns out as well as they are claiming it to. SNK/P burned us with the Neo•Geo X. It was expensive, and looked great, hardware wise. The system looked the part. The arcade sticks were said to be 1:1 identical. They were not! They weighed about half as much as the original and didn't feel the same. Then you had the whole stolen Final Burn Alpha emulator issue, awful HDMI video output (blurry and not synched), backwards stereo audio channels, and many more issues.
I'm not that familiar with Plaion Replai, but I do know they produced the Atari 2600+ for Atari, which was using software emulation, and did have a lot of incompatible games, as well as some hardware issues. I just think people see "Neo•Geo" and "1:1 perfect", and think it's automatically going to be identical to SNK's 1990 system. Just because it's ASIC doesn't guarantee it's 1:1. I'd like to see the board / chip configuration. I'd like to know which revision of the console is being cloned here. All of them have positive and negative things. I.E. some have better composite output quality, but poor RGB quality. Some have issues with JAILBARS on the video, and dithering issues. That would be an instant fail to see. Does the Neo•Geo+ even had RGB output? We need more info. I'm also going to guess that the cheaper carts are using a flash ROM (NOR flash), or EEPROM configurations, as opposed to the original permanent MASK ROMS. Just something to consider.
Re: "No Emulation, No Compromise, No Comparison" - The $250 Neo Geo+ AES Aims To Be A 1:1 Replica Of SNK's Classic Console
Damien,
I've tried to correct you a couple times in the past, but I really think you should get the initial pricing / wording correct here.
"the base console initially cost $649.99 in the US, and each cartridge would set you back a couple of hundred dollars"
The "base console" was called the Neo•Geo Silver System, which was the AES + 1x arcade stick, and was only $399.99 at launch. Which was 12/22/1990 in the USA. The Neo•Geo Gold System (2x arcade sticks + 1x game – from a choice between NAM-1975 and BASEBALL STARS PRO (NGH-001 and NGH-002, respectfully).
The AES cartridges were initially dynamically priced, based on the ROM size. This ranged from between $120 and $170. For example, League Bowling, a "26MEG" 26 megabit game, was selling for $120, while Top Player's Golf, a 62MEG, sold for $170. These prices went up to $199.99 during the summer of 1991, when they were being sold at Babbage's and Electronics Boutique retailers.
Re: Vectrex Mini Is The Next Micro Console You'll Need To Own
As some of you guys have stated, without an actual CRT, I just don't think this will do the Vectrex any justice. The mini CRT IS the heart of the Vectrex. You really need to see an actual Vectrex in person to truly appreciate it. I bought one with my older brother, at a Toys R Us, on closeout in 1984. A $50 Vectrex, $5 games, and a $10 second joystick. We plugged it into our shared room, and dimmed the lights.. It was an amazing site! I put this on par with first experiencing the Neo•Geo AES in my living room, playing the exact arcade games that we were used to playing. Or the first time playing VR. You can explain it all you want, but it needs to be appreciated by your own eyes in person.
I fear that people will feel the games are not that special on a modern display. A small one at that. I have played the Vectrex FPGA core on the beautiful Analogue Pocket's high resolution 1600px screen and while it does look very nice, and also has support for all of the color overlays, but you are just missing the phosphorus glow, and other pixel elements that make the experience so unique. I'm still interested in this and will watch for it.
Re: "We've Gone Retro" - New Arcade Bucks The Trend In An Otherwise Gloomy Sector
Is that Neo-Geo MVS running an LCD display at a stretched aspect ratio? Yuck! This is not how classic arcade cabs should be running. Either do it right, (CRTs, original quality controls, sound, cabs), or stick to just setting up consoles, or emulators on displays.
Re: Poll: So, What's Your Favourite Controller Of All Time?
I'd have also voted for the SN30 had they listed the 8BitDo controllers. It's one of the best controllers I've used in my 40+ years of gaming!
http://www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/snes/hardware/8Bitdo_SN30_SNES30_N30_NES30_M30-vgo-01.jpg
Re: Poll: So, What's Your Favourite Controller Of All Time?
Where is the Wii U Pro Controller?! I personally love those. I like them much more than the Switch Pro Controller. It's a shame that Nintendo didn't add support for those on the Switch. They'd have been perfect.
Re: Intellivision's Amico Is Shaping Up To Be The Most 'Nintendo' Non-Nintendo System Ever
They're entire sales pitch is a FAMILY FRIENDLY game system. Tommy was claiming that Nintendo has games with, and I quote... "Child rape". Which is course is untrue. Does he really believe Nintendo would allow this to happen on their system?! He's betting the entire Amico success on the hopes that parents won't be able to enable the very simple, and effective, PARENTAL SETTINGS, on the Switch, and other consoles.
Re: Intellivision's Amico Is Shaping Up To Be The Most 'Nintendo' Non-Nintendo System Ever
R.I.P. Earthworm Jim.
http://www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/ani-Earthworm_Jim-Jim_shoot_gun_left.gif
Re: Feature: The Haunting History Of Capcom's Ghosts 'n Goblins Series
This is a gem!
http://www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/snes/zzSNES-zDemonsCrest-photo-new-01-vgo.jpg