@KitsuneNight I'm not a fanboy, though The PSX was the better console in most regards. But that's nothing to do with how powerful the Saturn is. You might see through all this "but the PSX is better than the Saturn" and realise the Saturn is the more powerful console.
I've been playing Gran turismo 1 most of the morning and really enjoying it as I always do, It was the best game of its type and of the time and better than anything Sega had on the Saturn.
Later I might play some PDS on the Saturn because it was the best RPG of its type and of the time and better than anything Sony had on the PS1.
Both of these games show what could be achieved on their respective system, even though the PS1 was less powerful than the Sega Saturn and the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PS1. Which goes to show what developers could do without the time constraints placed on them and know how in front of them.
The Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PS1 however...
@UtopiaNemo Prove you wrong? No, people will say and believe what they want. I know, I'm not trolling. I'm saying the same thing over and over again because that's a fact people like you can't seem to grasp. You and whatshisname don't want discourse, you want to keep avoiding and arguing the truth.
The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1, T-h-a-t-s i-t
@UtopiaNemo The evidence is there, Jez said it. Others have said it before and will say it after. The facts are easy to find.
Are you really using the Troll label because I won't engage in pointless word salad like "The PS1 had more games" etc?
The point of this article is that Jez said the Saturn was more powerful than the PS1, and people for some reason went on the offensive with "the PS1 has more games" and the like.
If you can't grasp the point of The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1, and I'm stating that fact without arguing with you, that's on you.
@RetroGames Facts are facts. The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1, It's not hard to see, you just need to look at the specs. I just don't get why people are trying to make this more than it is and keep using excuses based on Games library, development issues etc.
The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
Jez said what's been said before by others.
Blows my mind sometimes the lengths people will go to and point-blank say white is black...
@RetroGames The article is about how the Saturn is the most powerful, that's it. All the chatter about games library, development issues etc is irrelevant.
The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
@RetroGames It's there in black and white from Jez, other industry names have said the same. People can keep turning over old ground and mouthing excuses, but facts are facts. The Saturn was more powerful.
Check out the homebrew scene, there's plenty of proof the Saturn is really more capable than was seen back in the day and is more powerful than the PS1.
Like it or not, the Saturn is the more powerful system.
The point is the Saturn was always more powerful than the PS1, most people knew this and no matter how many PS1 fanboys argue "Yeah but the PS1 was easier to develop for, Yeah but the PS1 had more games, Yeah but the Saturn was a mess of chips" and on and on an Ariston won't change the simple fact that the Saturn was a more powerful machine. Granted it was a pig to develop for but with time and effort it was a beast and capable of so much more than it achieved. If things had of been different i.e easier to develop for and it got more investment from developers it would have crushed the PS1.
Unfortunately it is what it it is but the Saturn still went toe to toe with the PS1 and sometimes came off better.
@KitsuneNight You mean harder to develop for. So no, it wasn't just that. This can be seen in the homebrew scene now. The problem was because the Saturn was a pain in the arse to develop for and time was an issue back then, developers couldn't get the best of the hardware in the time they were given.
The Saturn was more powerful than the PSX, and Jez isn't the only one to say it.
It is unnecessary which costs money, time and takes up space, but if people get something from it they should knock themselves out. Personally i have no need for the tappy thingy-ma-jingy and even less a CD addon doody-whatsit and the money im no spending on it will go into something i do have a use for and something that gives me enjoyment.
@Damo I do indeed and there's nothing wrong with it, I agree with you. However there's an issue when people like Pramod try to twist the truth and make out hes not using DRM when everyone knows he is. Whilst making out like jotego is wrong for it.
The big difference is Jotego has followers that support him and his team because they do good work and they put the money back into their work which helps the community thrive.
It's going to suck they always do. I'll watch it when i can download it and by watch it probably flick through it but it being anything other than bargain bin like i doubt it.
@NinChocolate At least it's not the same old tired box with rounded corners or Mega Drive esq design. You are correct though it does look like a aquarium lid.
The funny thing is when all the drama calms down the instigators are always the same people. Like this current drama was started when Atrac tried to start an argument with Jotego and Pramod came in with his 10 cents. Then as always Pramod digs himself a hole he can't get out of and he limits his X account and starts crying he's being attacked.
To those who stay away from the FPGA community because of all the drama you should really ignore these articles because they just blow all of the so called drama out of proportion. I've been a fan of the mister and other FPGA platforms for a long time and if you stay out of the so called official discord and away from Atrac and Pramods socials theres no drama at all.
Pramods bored and looking for attention and the way he can get it is attack the MISTER community because he knows he will get plenty of bites. This article will make him froth and as can be seen from the Twitter thread hes milking it for all its worth.
If you read between the lines of his posts it's just a case of Mister = Bad whilst he sits on his high horse acting like his ***** doesn't stink.
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Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@KitsuneNight I'm not a fanboy, though The PSX was the better console in most regards. But that's nothing to do with how powerful the Saturn is. You might see through all this "but the PSX is better than the Saturn" and realise the Saturn is the more powerful console.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@city952 It's not about better graphics, it's about power... Your getting mixed up.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@city952 So what you just said in a roundabout way is the Saturn is more powerful than the PS1.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@avcrypt so what you're saying is the Saturn was more powerful than the PS1. You didn't have to belate it...
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@city952 That's not the point, though. The point is, the Saturn is more powerful than the PS1.
Regarding your point, though, STOP talking bubbles...
Now behave and go play some PSX games. Like Tony The Tiger would say... They're grrrrrreat!
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@RetroGames
I've been playing Gran turismo 1 most of the morning and really enjoying it as I always do, It was the best game of its type and of the time and better than anything Sega had on the Saturn.
Later I might play some PDS on the Saturn because it was the best RPG of its type and of the time and better than anything Sony had on the PS1.
Both of these games show what could be achieved on their respective system, even though the PS1 was less powerful than the Sega Saturn and the Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PS1. Which goes to show what developers could do without the time constraints placed on them and know how in front of them.
The Sega Saturn was more powerful than the PS1 however...
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@UtopiaNemo Prove you wrong? No, people will say and believe what they want. I know, I'm not trolling. I'm saying the same thing over and over again because that's a fact people like you can't seem to grasp. You and whatshisname don't want discourse, you want to keep avoiding and arguing the truth.
The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1, T-h-a-t-s i-t
Deal with it.
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Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@UtopiaNemo The evidence is there, Jez said it. Others have said it before and will say it after. The facts are easy to find.
Are you really using the Troll label because I won't engage in pointless word salad like "The PS1 had more games" etc?
The point of this article is that Jez said the Saturn was more powerful than the PS1, and people for some reason went on the offensive with "the PS1 has more games" and the like.
If you can't grasp the point of The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1, and I'm stating that fact without arguing with you, that's on you.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@KitsuneNight that's a silly response, but you do you, The PS1 is not as powerful as the Sega Saturn.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@KitsuneNight I won't argue with you m8 when the fact is the Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. Thats it!
It really is that simple. If you want to get eaten up over it you do you.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@KitsuneNight pointless post. The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
A bus just passed me, and it was red, The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
The guy in front of me is wearing shoes, The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
The PS1 had more games than the Saturn, but the Saturn was more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@KitsuneNight Simple... The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1 is true, thats it!.
Everything else is irrelevant
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@RetroGames Facts are facts. The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1, It's not hard to see, you just need to look at the specs.
I just don't get why people are trying to make this more than it is and keep using excuses based on Games library, development issues etc.
The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
Jez said what's been said before by others.
Blows my mind sometimes the lengths people will go to and point-blank say white is black...
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@UtopiaNemo It's the more powerful system that's it. Your points are irrelevant. The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@RetroGames The article is about how the Saturn is the most powerful, that's it. All the chatter about games library, development issues etc is irrelevant.
The Saturn is more powerful than the PS1. That's it!
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@RetroGames It's there in black and white from Jez, other industry names have said the same. People can keep turning over old ground and mouthing excuses, but facts are facts. The Saturn was more powerful.
Check out the homebrew scene, there's plenty of proof the Saturn is really more capable than was seen back in the day and is more powerful than the PS1.
Like it or not, the Saturn is the more powerful system.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
The point is the Saturn was always more powerful than the PS1, most people knew this and no matter how many PS1 fanboys argue "Yeah but the PS1 was easier to develop for, Yeah but the PS1 had more games, Yeah but the Saturn was a mess of chips" and on and on an Ariston won't change the simple fact that the Saturn was a more powerful machine. Granted it was a pig to develop for but with time and effort it was a beast and capable of so much more than it achieved. If things had of been different i.e easier to develop for and it got more investment from developers it would have crushed the PS1.
Unfortunately it is what it it is but the Saturn still went toe to toe with the PS1 and sometimes came off better.
Re: Saturn Was "More Powerful Than PlayStation" Claims Argonaut Founder
@KitsuneNight You mean harder to develop for. So no, it wasn't just that. This can be seen in the homebrew scene now. The problem was because the Saturn was a pain in the arse to develop for and time was an issue back then, developers couldn't get the best of the hardware in the time they were given.
The Saturn was more powerful than the PSX, and Jez isn't the only one to say it.
Re: Genesis JRPG Traysia Is Getting A New Physical Release In 2025
One of the worst JRPG's getting a re-release at a stupid price. Well, colour me surprised…
"Telenet's Genesis JRPG Traysia (known as Minato no Traysia in Japan) isn't renowned as one of the best examples of the genre, but it has its fans"
You're better than this, The game was utter *****, One review giving it 2 out of 10.
Re: MiSTer FPGA's Next Trick? Launching Games From CD
It is unnecessary which costs money, time and takes up space, but if people get something from it they should knock themselves out.
Personally i have no need for the tappy thingy-ma-jingy and even less a CD addon doody-whatsit and the money im no spending on it will go into something i do have a use for and something that gives me enjoyment.
Re: Interview: "Creating Cores Isn't Profitable" - Pr4m0d On The Challenges Of FPGA Retro Gaming
@Damo I do indeed and there's nothing wrong with it, I agree with you. However there's an issue when people like Pramod try to twist the truth and make out hes not using DRM when everyone knows he is. Whilst making out like jotego is wrong for it.
The big difference is Jotego has followers that support him and his team because they do good work and they put the money back into their work which helps the community thrive.
Re: Interview: "Creating Cores Isn't Profitable" - Pr4m0d On The Challenges Of FPGA Retro Gaming
Maybe not in it for the money but likes to attack good people doing good work and throwing tantrums when he get's shown his arse.
Implementing DRM and has a Patreon, So he is in it for the money but doesn't have the following to make any.
Re: Interview: Jason Bradbury Talks 'Crtl AI Delete', A Comedic Take On The AI Apocalypse
It's going to suck they always do. I'll watch it when i can download it and by watch it probably flick through it but it being anything other than bargain bin like i doubt it.
Re: Alan Sugar Wants Your Help To Build An Online Amstrad Museum
@Axelay71 It would still be 100ft long and require the front room window removing to get it in the house.
Re: SuperSega Wants To Answer Your Questions About Its All-In-One FPGA Console
@NinChocolate At least it's not the same old tired box with rounded corners or Mega Drive esq design. You are correct though it does look like a aquarium lid.
Re: SuperSega Wants To Answer Your Questions About Its All-In-One FPGA Console
Unless the interview includes a working demo of the hardware it's still vaporware and the interview is pointless.
Re: "I Am Tired Of Receiving Death Threats Over A Video Game" - FPGA Dev Explains Why Mortal Kombat Is Skipping MiSTer
The funny thing is when all the drama calms down the instigators are always the same people. Like this current drama was started when Atrac tried to start an argument with Jotego and Pramod came in with his 10 cents. Then as always Pramod digs himself a hole he can't get out of and he limits his X account and starts crying he's being attacked.
To those who stay away from the FPGA community because of all the drama you should really ignore these articles because they just blow all of the so called drama out of proportion. I've been a fan of the mister and other FPGA platforms for a long time and if you stay out of the so called official discord and away from Atrac and Pramods socials theres no drama at all.
Re: Egads, There's More Drama In The FPGA Retro Gaming Community
Pramods bored and looking for attention and the way he can get it is attack the MISTER community because he knows he will get plenty of bites. This article will make him froth and as can be seen from the Twitter thread hes milking it for all its worth.
If you read between the lines of his posts it's just a case of Mister = Bad whilst he sits on his high horse acting like his ***** doesn't stink.