"The Wii Has Been An Incredibly Important System To The History Of Video Games" - RetroAchievements Adds Wii Support

The thing I love about retro gaming is that there isn't all of this blinking stuff constantly bombarding the player, such as achievements.

I can play a game and be absolutely fine with completing it or not without feeling the need to show it off to others.

But this is a wider subject, people feeling that everything must be broadcast, that quiet enjoyment of hobbies is something to be looked down upon.

I’m glad these exist for those that want them, but I’m not the target for this feature.

I wouldn’t say that I eye-rolled when unlocking achievements on the PS5, but I have groaned when these constant interruptions blink and plink on my screen, so I turned the notifications off.

I don’t want my hobby time to feel like grinding a day job with the annoying chimes of email and other “worky” stuff, haha. Retro gaming is simplicity and it’s an experience I don’t particularly want changed if I can help it.

@NoirConceit agree on all of that—well said! 👍

I personally love the community around RetroAchievements, how there are events, and how they bring the spotlight to more obscure games.

The community is cool, and it's what makes RA so fun.

Glad Wii is going to be supported soon. Gotta get me some old Wii controllers and a DolphinBar soon, methinks.

I really hope they sorted out those Lemmings SNES achievements I reported. Impossible to complete and need to be taken down.

I really wish though that RA focused on earlier platforms missing like the ZX Spectrum and Amiga. Not sure why those are missing. 🤔

I like retroachivments…but the idea of wii cheevos sounds like there will be some jank to it, and the motion controls will be to blame if you asked me

I have never once played any game (retro or modern) wishing it had achievements / trophies / medals / badges / commendations / smiley faces / ticks, or whatever nonsense it is games have these days.

I remember once seeing a comment somewhere where the internet person basically said “there was no point in games without trophies”. How ridiculous. Although that person’s parents wouldn’t have received a trophy for giving birth to them, so in that context it makes sense.

Yeah, it was one of the first things I disabled on my PS4/5 — they completely take me out of the moment, especially in the throes of a boss battle or emotional cutscene.

It happens pretty frequently — a PS1 game will release on PSN sans trophies, and it seems to be a dealbreaker for many people.

@Sketcz Hello, I'm No one. I'm an avid user of RA. Allow me to counter your rant.

So, the only reason you give to dunk on RA is because the notifications ruined games on PS3, and you couldn't disable them? Not only are is this judging RA because of a totally separate achievement system, but RA provides the ability to disable them, making this an invalid reason to call RA "crap"!

Also, I'm glad I ate my pizza before I looked up the definition of ttongsul instead of after. Isn't it kinda over-the-top to compare players enjoying a system that harms no one to something so abominable? I feel insulted...

Also... don't you think its kind of a stretch to compare cheevos to things such as loot crates or NFTs that ruin games and the environment?

Honestly, considering that it's been months since the article came out, I wasn't gonna bother refuting the other negative comments about RA, but your rant is recent enough for me to feel like countering. Besides, they all have similar arguments to yours, so I'd just be repeating myself.

@Sketcz I think fundamentally having the option to turn them on or off is the most important thing; it's clear there are people on both ends who enjoy having trophies/achievements or find them a nuisance. Saying that a game is unplayable without them, or conversely, condemning those who enjoy having them switched on, feels a bit extreme.

@Sketcz "I am sorry you felt personally attacked by my statement. My intention is not to upset people."

You compared people who like achievements to people who drink that wine.

Personally, I see achievements as a sort of record of how much I engaged in a game (when I beat a particular boss and all that). And, if I like the game enough, it becomes like a travel guide for seeing all of the nooks and crannies of the game. I work in IT, so that kind of data is interesting to me.

"So when I see people dismissing these beautiful creations, because they don't have cheevos, I feel actual nauseau."
"But the growing obsession over cheevos / trophies, and the need to have them everywhere, feels like a sort of cognitive virus that is spreading. Developers now design games around cheevos. People refuse to play old games because they don't have cheevos."
"the misguided belief that a game without cheevos is a game without value."

I agree with all of these. These are valid reasons to dislike achievements.

"I love games for the games. My mind is incapable of comprehending those who say a game is pointless without cheevos. These poor lost souls need help; they need guidance; they need re-education."

And this is just elitist crap. It's like saying people who like collecting stamps need re-education, because you can send mail by just buying a single stamp at the post office.

Maybe you're completely right. Maybe these people wouldn't play games if achievements didn't exist. But that simply means fewer people will play games overall. And I think that would also a detriment to the gaming community. Not everyone needs to be a higher art connoisseur to play video games.

@NoirConceit agree on one site, i don;'t need to have them popping around... but for games you've played so much, this really can give you a new way of playing them... (like sensible soccer using only 1 button for example, amiga style)

@Hydra_Spectre a dolphin bar? they made a wii-bar to use for dolphin? i must investigate this!

@GravyThief haha, my kids have a similar sentiment when going to an arcade without those ticket producing games... 'what is the point'' different times..