Interestingly enough, Two Tribes appear to acknowledge and approve of this development, as they re-tweeted Forest of Illusion's announcement! https://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames
@GamerDad66 @NinChocolate To be fair, this is a retro cartridge release by Retro-Bit, they don't release games for modern systems. Although they do have retro-style controllers that are compatible with both original and modern systems.
Limited Run Games are only acting as a distributor here.
@SalvorHardin That's a useful tip, I'll give this a go because in the case of PAL region games they run at 50Hz, something not ideal for 60Hz displays.
As long as you temper your performance expectations, you'll probably really enjoy these devices. They have the best buttons and build quality of any such emulation-centric handhelds I've used and the RG351V in particular has been a joy for playing SNES and Megadrive games.
What you're looking at here is mostly an old model in new clothes.
The RG350M is an Ingenic JZ4770 powered device, which is an old chip being used in handhelds like these since the GCW Zero in 2013! It's highly likely that they are looking to use up remaining chips to help fund the development of their future systems, which will likely feature Rockchip RK3326 like the RG351P and RG351M.
Personally, I would find a device like this too small to enjoy playing on, that form factor was never intended for a device with so many buttons after all. The Game Boy Micro only had two face buttons and two shoulder buttons!
This looks really nice, but I think $180 for the base unit and 24 mini-games prices it too high for people with a passing curiosity.
There are things like PICO-8 as a platform for small indie homebrew games, similar restrictions and novelty albeit digital, with a small admission fee.
The L/R shoulder buttons look uncomfortably narrow and would probably hurt your fingers after pressing them for too long. The Retroid in general also looks a lot chunkier, thicker, and less comfortable to hold.
@Oval_Griffin Yes, the RG351V suffers from lacking a right analogue, though not by much. There aren't too many systems that it's capable of playing that actually make use of a second analogue, outside of the couple dozen PS1 games that supported them.
With the shoulder buttons, I can understand why they're laid out that way though as a two-row design might make the system thicker than it already is.
The 640x480 screen was the main reason I got the RG351V to compliment my RG351P. That said, if they were to make a RG351P with a 720x480 screen, that would remain perfect for GBA games and keep all the benefits of a 480p screen.
@HamatoYoshi @BloodNinja I'm not sure anyway, both units I received were ordered from the same site, Retromimi. They're a reliable seller in my experience. They might've started deleting the pre-bundled ROMs at some point which is best practice, but probably a hassle if they receive them like that.
@BloodNinja @HamatoYoshi On the subject of being pre-loaded with ROMs, this seems to depend on who you buy it from.
The stock microSD for firmware is only supposed to have the firmware, and it might have a few public domain things on there. When I received my RG351P back in December it was loaded with ROMs, and of particularly poor quality. They were pre-patched with cheat codes for example which could ruin the experience. But the RG351V I received a few months ago was not pre-loaded with ROMs, which I preferred.
I have an RG351P and it's one of my favourite devices, it's perfect for playing GBA games, but the screen makes it less desirable for the other types of systems it's capable of emulating. That unusual 480x320 resolution means home console and arcade games will have some scaling filters applied, which I find unpleasant to look at.
There's a sister device called the RG351V which has a classic DMG Game Boy design, and sports a 640x480 screen. It's absolutely perfect for home console games, Game Boy games, and more. GBA games take a small hit as you need to scale them, but they scale better than you'd expect.
It's nice to see Nintendo Life covering Anbernic's more recent devices though! They really are excellent little devices.
@sanderev That's what I saw after looking it up, yeah. Though one has a 1.2Ghz processor and the other has a 1.5Ghz processor, that by itself is no indication of performance capabilities.
This device looks like it is very, very similar to the RG351P.
There's a chance that it is using the same processor and general firmware, especially since they seem to share a 480x320 IPS screen.
With that in mind, you guys should check if you can flash a custom firmware to the microSD card.
The stock firmware for the RG351P is terrible, if you flash a custom one such as 351Elec the experience is greatly improved: Default shaders and scaling on a per-system basis are better, and can still be fixed up.
The main draw of the 480x320 resolution screen is that Game Boy / Color / Advance games will look perfect on it! That's why I got an RG351P.
The drawback however, is that most other systems you'll need RGA scaling to get them to look decent.
Edit: Looked up the processors for these devices and they aren't the same, I'm not sure which one has superior specs.
This is very much geared at the total enthusiasts that really wanna deck out their homes and already spend hundreds on individual NEO GEO games.
Whilst the selection of games is nice, no doubt people will look into modding this thing to load in even more games. But hopefully this thing actually has good software emulation.
Question about the 8Bitdo M30's latency. Do these tests run the M30 2.4G using the latest Firmware v2.0? This purportedly resolves connectivity and latency issues.
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Re: Cancelled 'Toki Tori' Nintendo DS Prototypes Surface Online
Interestingly enough, Two Tribes appear to acknowledge and approve of this development, as they re-tweeted Forest of Illusion's announcement!
https://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames
Re: Review: RAD2X Is The Only HDMI Cable You Need For Your Retro Consoles
Price not mentioned in the review, but goes for £53.99 each.
That seems competitive against some other retro-console solutions.
Re: Gaiares Is Getting A Physical Re-Release With The Help Of The Kid Who Promoted It 31 Years Ago
@GamerDad66 @NinChocolate
To be fair, this is a retro cartridge release by Retro-Bit, they don't release games for modern systems.
Although they do have retro-style controllers that are compatible with both original and modern systems.
Limited Run Games are only acting as a distributor here.
Re: Hands On: The Anbernic R351V Offers A Real 'Game Boy' Vibe
@SalvorHardin
That's a useful tip, I'll give this a go because in the case of PAL region games they run at 50Hz, something not ideal for 60Hz displays.
Re: Hands On: The Anbernic R351V Offers A Real 'Game Boy' Vibe
As long as you temper your performance expectations, you'll probably really enjoy these devices.
They have the best buttons and build quality of any such emulation-centric handhelds I've used and the RG351V in particular has been a joy for playing SNES and Megadrive games.
Re: Hands On: Anbernic's RG300X Is A Beefed-Up Game Boy Micro That Runs Emulators
@SenseiDje
Acquire homebrew SNES roms developed and shared by indie developers is one way.
Or, you use some sort of SNES cartridge ROM dumping device to produce legal backups of your own physical media.
You can use a RetroN 5 for example.
Re: Hands On: Anbernic's RG300X Is A Beefed-Up Game Boy Micro That Runs Emulators
What you're looking at here is mostly an old model in new clothes.
The RG350M is an Ingenic JZ4770 powered device, which is an old chip being used in handhelds like these since the GCW Zero in 2013!
It's highly likely that they are looking to use up remaining chips to help fund the development of their future systems, which will likely feature Rockchip RK3326 like the RG351P and RG351M.
Personally, I would find a device like this too small to enjoy playing on, that form factor was never intended for a device with so many buttons after all. The Game Boy Micro only had two face buttons and two shoulder buttons!
Re: Playdate Pre-Order Date Is Confirmed, Shipping Late This Year
This looks really nice, but I think $180 for the base unit and 24 mini-games prices it too high for people with a passing curiosity.
There are things like PICO-8 as a platform for small indie homebrew games, similar restrictions and novelty albeit digital, with a small admission fee.
Re: Hands On: Retro Handheld Face-Off - Anbernic R351 Vs Retroid Pocket 2
@Oval_Griffin
Comparing to pictures of an RG351P.
https://retrododo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/RG351P-6.jpg
The L/R shoulder buttons look uncomfortably narrow and would probably hurt your fingers after pressing them for too long.
The Retroid in general also looks a lot chunkier, thicker, and less comfortable to hold.
Re: Hands On: Retro Handheld Face-Off - Anbernic R351 Vs Retroid Pocket 2
@Oval_Griffin
Yes, the RG351V suffers from lacking a right analogue, though not by much. There aren't too many systems that it's capable of playing that actually make use of a second analogue, outside of the couple dozen PS1 games that supported them.
With the shoulder buttons, I can understand why they're laid out that way though as a two-row design might make the system thicker than it already is.
The 640x480 screen was the main reason I got the RG351V to compliment my RG351P.
That said, if they were to make a RG351P with a 720x480 screen, that would remain perfect for GBA games and keep all the benefits of a 480p screen.
Re: Hands On: Retro Handheld Face-Off - Anbernic R351 Vs Retroid Pocket 2
@HamatoYoshi @BloodNinja
I'm not sure anyway, both units I received were ordered from the same site, Retromimi.
They're a reliable seller in my experience. They might've started deleting the pre-bundled ROMs at some point which is best practice, but probably a hassle if they receive them like that.
Re: Hands On: Retro Handheld Face-Off - Anbernic R351 Vs Retroid Pocket 2
@BloodNinja @HamatoYoshi
On the subject of being pre-loaded with ROMs, this seems to depend on who you buy it from.
The stock microSD for firmware is only supposed to have the firmware, and it might have a few public domain things on there.
When I received my RG351P back in December it was loaded with ROMs, and of particularly poor quality.
They were pre-patched with cheat codes for example which could ruin the experience.
But the RG351V I received a few months ago was not pre-loaded with ROMs, which I preferred.
Re: Hands On: Retro Handheld Face-Off - Anbernic R351 Vs Retroid Pocket 2
I have an RG351P and it's one of my favourite devices, it's perfect for playing GBA games, but the screen makes it less desirable for the other types of systems it's capable of emulating.
That unusual 480x320 resolution means home console and arcade games will have some scaling filters applied, which I find unpleasant to look at.
There's a sister device called the RG351V which has a classic DMG Game Boy design, and sports a 640x480 screen. It's absolutely perfect for home console games, Game Boy games, and more. GBA games take a small hit as you need to scale them, but they scale better than you'd expect.
It's nice to see Nintendo Life covering Anbernic's more recent devices though! They really are excellent little devices.
Re: The PocketGo S30 Is Basically A SNES Pad That Plays Retro Games
@sanderev
That's what I saw after looking it up, yeah.
Though one has a 1.2Ghz processor and the other has a 1.5Ghz processor, that by itself is no indication of performance capabilities.
Re: The PocketGo S30 Is Basically A SNES Pad That Plays Retro Games
This device looks like it is very, very similar to the RG351P.
There's a chance that it is using the same processor and general firmware, especially since they seem to share a 480x320 IPS screen.
With that in mind, you guys should check if you can flash a custom firmware to the microSD card.
The stock firmware for the RG351P is terrible, if you flash a custom one such as 351Elec the experience is greatly improved: Default shaders and scaling on a per-system basis are better, and can still be fixed up.
The main draw of the 480x320 resolution screen is that Game Boy / Color / Advance games will look perfect on it! That's why I got an RG351P.
The drawback however, is that most other systems you'll need RGA scaling to get them to look decent.
Edit: Looked up the processors for these devices and they aren't the same, I'm not sure which one has superior specs.
Re: Poll: Did You Know That GoldenEye Had A Dual-Analogue Control Option On N64?
I think I might've known that by proxy, because I recall knowing that about Perfect Dark, but not Goldeneye.
Re: The SNK Neo Geo MVSX Home Arcade Is Packed With 50 Games, Costs 500 Bucks
This is very much geared at the total enthusiasts that really wanna deck out their homes and already spend hundreds on individual NEO GEO games.
Whilst the selection of games is nice, no doubt people will look into modding this thing to load in even more games.
But hopefully this thing actually has good software emulation.
Re: This New Handheld Wants To Heal The Scars Of Gaming's Most Infamous Console War
I'm not sure who this is for. Enthusiasts with SNES or Mega Drive cartridges (or flash carts) are going to want a nicer system than this.
Re: Hardware Review: Analogue Mega Sg: Forget The Mega Drive Mini, This Is The Real Deal
Question about the 8Bitdo M30's latency.
Do these tests run the M30 2.4G using the latest Firmware v2.0? This purportedly resolves connectivity and latency issues.
Re: More Tantalising Polymega Details Emerge From GDC 2019
These photos with their low level neon lighting are difficult to view.
Re: Hardware Review: Terraonion Super SD System 3 Unlocks The Entire PC Engine Library
My brother recently got one of these and it's quite a treat.
The fact that it functions as an optical-drive emulator is quite remarkable.
Re: Myth Becomes Reality As Atari's E.T. Cartridges Are Unearthed In New Mexico Landfill
I know that everyone's been thinking about AVGN on this subject matter, but has anyone stopped to think about Steven Spielberg?