@RootsGenoa it's not whataboutism - that would indicate I didn't address the issue in favor of deflection. I did address it.
AI usage isn't a problem across the board. There is a problem with how they were trained. There is a problem with how corporations are using/employing them.
You saying "we've been using these things a lot longer and it's harder to live without them" is a pretty poor argument, and is weak analogy at best. Just because something has been normalized doesn't mean you just shrug and go "oh well". You are quite literally making the same argument people made about the printing press, the radio, TV, the internet, search engines, auto-correct... and just like those things, AI IS here to stay no matter how many people have feelings about it. All of those technologies had good and bad. It might not be fun to deal with, but we have to figure out how to handle it - that's what we have done for the entirety of history. If you want to go the Amish route and never use them, no one is stopping you.
My problem is that people (on both sides of this argument) have no critical thinking skills or nuance. When all you do is parrot talking points like water usage, you're just showing you don't have either. I'm glad people are pushing back - we need to be pushing back more... just get your facts straight, and your anger directed the right way.
You literally do not know how most people are using it. It's far too new and we will be finding out about the many good things (and horrors) for years to come.
Alcohol and drugs are problems too. Many people are literally dependent on them even though they clearly didn't always need them. Instead of banning those we generally try to put in place proper guardrails/legislation. Because that's what we do.
And it literally DOES have to do with the subject. You (not necessarily you personally) just don't like that you might have to confront the other things you have gotten dependent on
Ragebait. If any of you cared half as much about the environment or resource usage as you said, you'd be railing against animal agriculture and war as they are both much, MUCH worse. AI and the ***** companies pushing it into everything need heavy regulation but you're all huge hypocrites. Using AI isn't nearly as intensive as you claim (though training new models and building data centers are undeniably moreso).
This site uses AI. Your phone uses AI. Pretty much every piece of software coming out now is benefiting from AI either directly, or through dependencies/packages it's using.
Sure, I think gen AI for creative processes like art are a soulless waste of resources, but you need to grow up if you're still one of those people whining every time someone uses it for something.
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@RootsGenoa it's not whataboutism - that would indicate I didn't address the issue in favor of deflection. I did address it.
AI usage isn't a problem across the board. There is a problem with how they were trained. There is a problem with how corporations are using/employing them.
You saying "we've been using these things a lot longer and it's harder to live without them" is a pretty poor argument, and is weak analogy at best. Just because something has been normalized doesn't mean you just shrug and go "oh well". You are quite literally making the same argument people made about the printing press, the radio, TV, the internet, search engines, auto-correct... and just like those things, AI IS here to stay no matter how many people have feelings about it. All of those technologies had good and bad. It might not be fun to deal with, but we have to figure out how to handle it - that's what we have done for the entirety of history. If you want to go the Amish route and never use them, no one is stopping you.
My problem is that people (on both sides of this argument) have no critical thinking skills or nuance. When all you do is parrot talking points like water usage, you're just showing you don't have either. I'm glad people are pushing back - we need to be pushing back more... just get your facts straight, and your anger directed the right way.
You literally do not know how most people are using it. It's far too new and we will be finding out about the many good things (and horrors) for years to come.
Alcohol and drugs are problems too. Many people are literally dependent on them even though they clearly didn't always need them. Instead of banning those we generally try to put in place proper guardrails/legislation. Because that's what we do.
And it literally DOES have to do with the subject. You (not necessarily you personally) just don't like that you might have to confront the other things you have gotten dependent on
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Ragebait. If any of you cared half as much about the environment or resource usage as you said, you'd be railing against animal agriculture and war as they are both much, MUCH worse. AI and the ***** companies pushing it into everything need heavy regulation but you're all huge hypocrites. Using AI isn't nearly as intensive as you claim (though training new models and building data centers are undeniably moreso).
This site uses AI. Your phone uses AI. Pretty much every piece of software coming out now is benefiting from AI either directly, or through dependencies/packages it's using.
Sure, I think gen AI for creative processes like art are a soulless waste of resources, but you need to grow up if you're still one of those people whining every time someone uses it for something.